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Why Europe Is Warning of Pax Americana's End

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Re: Why Europe Is Warning of Pax Americana's End

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Post by seppin »

tiatia wrote: post #373
seppin wrote: post #335

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> Russian law would give this pretext. Putin would be obligated by the constitution to protect "Russians" abroad. Ukraine has a huge Russian minority. Russian law is not recognized outside of Russia. Besides, that logic would give him legal authority to conquer half of Eastern Europe. > Ukraine is currently on the level of a 3rd world country. Russia would have air superiority within 24 hours Do you have any idea wha…

"Russian law is not recognized outside of Russia. Besides, that logic would give him legal authority to conquer half of Eastern Europe." In a way it does. But how are "Russians" in danger in Easter Europe? https://www.loc.gov/law/help/russian-georgia-war.php#Russia%... "Do you have any idea what occupation means? " Actually I do. And I don't think it would be a big issue. Please consider that the regime currently in…

> Actually I do. And I don't think it would be a big issue.

What a stupid and dangerous thing to say.

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Post by seppin »

tiatia wrote: post #382
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #366

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They need some pretext that most of the rest of the world will recognize as having some validity.

You mean, like WMD in Iraq? Or Libya? "We came, we saw, he died"? Ukraine is not in the Nato. If Putin had serious interest in "claiming" it he could do it. And it would make more sense than occupying the Baltic states. He would be able to take the Baltic states. But the Baltic states ARE in the Nato. And they provide little advantage. How did a Russian say about the Crimea Island? "Another poor region we have to fee…

> But geography is still on their agenda since "buffer states" have always and will always be part of Russian military strategy.

It was, back when countries used to invade each other and there was no international law and order. And it seems Russia's main geopolitical goal is to return us to those days, or at least prepare themselves for when it comes. What a cynical way to approach things like Syria or Ukraine. Kill as many as possible, scorch the earth so the homeland isn't exposed in a theoretical future war.

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Post by dajohnson89 »

bad_user wrote: post #26
dajohnson89 wrote: post #15

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FWIW, I think that complex military alliances are a major reason why WWI was so expansive.

In case of a World War, military alliances are going to happen whether you want it or not, with the difference that weaker countries will be up for grabs, like Czechoslovakia in WWII. And even Poland actually, UK declaring war after Poland's invasion being sort of a surprise for Hitler.

You might be begging the question though. I'm saying that a priori alliances are the cause. You're saying they are the effect.

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Post by _b8r0 »

owebmaster wrote: post #236
_b8r0 wrote: post #220

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1. The Falkland Islands are British territories. They are British because the population are British citizens and have repeatedly made it clear they wish to remain so. 2. The UK has never gone to war with the Falkland Islands. Argentina invaded the Falkands in 1982.

1. Just like Crimea?

No, nothing like Crimea.

The Falkland Islands were British territories in 1982 when Argentina invaded. The Crimea was Ukrainian territory in 2014 when it was Annexed by Russia.

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Post by fictioncircle »

dang wrote: post #374
fictioncircle wrote: post #350

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In other words, you have 0 evidence. K. I'm done.

Please stop posting uncivil and unsubstantive comments to HN. We ban accounts that do that repeatedly.

Go ahead. I'll stop using it.
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