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Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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It's early days, so we haven't filled out a lot of our content. While our main newsline is on Conor McGregor, the UFC fighter, there is not much fake news or bias surrounding him. A far better example is to look at the newsline for Emma Sulkowicz, the so-called "Mattress Girl" [1]. Ms Sulkowicz, at that time a student at Columbia University, claims she was raped and in protest at what she saw was the University's lac…

Thanks for responding. To be sure, I'm asking the following questions in good faith as I want your site to work. > Newslines fixes the problem of bias by allowing people to build up the page by adding news events. If people are just citing existing biased sources, isn't this just trading half-truths? Is the idea that somewhere in the middle is typically the truth? This sounds like it's prime to create middle ground f…

>If people are just citing existing biased sources, isn't this just trading half-truths? Is the idea that somewhere in the middle is typically the truth? This sounds like it's prime to create middle ground fallacies.

We don't simply cite the source. We extract the factual information in the source into the post. When New York Times reports "Evil Trump is coming to the UK" and Breitbart reports, "Our friend Trum is coming to the UK", the news event that Trump is coming to the UK is the same in both cases.

Now, the facts may be misreported, but that's a different issue. We do some tagging for obvious rumors, and we hope to improve our tools for labeling the veracity of how each new event is reported. But we belive we have a solid base to work from.

>Who is "we"? If it's your staff (or you), then I'd need to trust you. If it's the collective "we", then we're back to bias, but worse because it's masquerading as impartial

We use a combination of paid and crowdsourced staff. It doesn't really matter who "we" are, because the process is the same in either case to extract the factual information. You only need to trust that we are transcribing from the source correctly, and readers can always go back to the original source to check. So you may wonder, what's the value in that? The value is the creation of the unbiased timeline when all the summaries from diverse sources are compiled.

>Which makes it sound like the prior in the previous issue -- this sounds like closed source Wikipedia.

While Wikipedia acts like a news archive, its software and policies are not up to the task. There are similarities to what we do compared with Wikipedia and at first we considered ourselves to be a "Wikipedia for news". However, we take a more formal approach to adding sources that Wikipedia, which leads to more consistency in the final result. You may want to read my analysis of Wikipedia's failings: http://newslines.org/blog/wikipedias-13-deadly-sins/

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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I would never work at a company structured like this and if you're implying we impose rules on companies to operate like democracies then that's even more dangerous than Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Semler#Semco_1990.E2.8... Watch Ricardo Semler's TedTalk.

Thanks, this looks interesting, I ordered Maverick to learn more about Semco.

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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I'm happily engaged in a DevOps startup and won't pursue this idea, but I proposed a new kind of news format shortly after the election at https://joshpadnick.com/2016/11/25/a-proposal-for-a-new-type... . Personally, I'd love to be a consumer of something like this, or to know if there are startups working on this.

I am now running my own news startup (oko.ai) and have secured a deal with the biggest news agency in Portugal. And fact-checking is on our pipeline of features, thank you for the share.

Also do you think we are in the right spot to go for this YC call?

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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> A company that expends great amount of money and resources on constant political shifting and backstabbing, and that can't present an unified vision on the market will soon get outcompeted by one that has its shit together. That already happens anyway. You don't need to have a democratically governed workplace for constant political shifting and backstabbing to occur. > If you want to leave or they fire you, you ca…

>> because too much efficiency in a country will make many, many people very miserable. > Can't you make the same argument at organization level? I'm sure many Amazon warehouse workers would agree. Honestly, I think you could. Actually, this is something I was thinking about a lot in context of employee rights. Making workers happy - good office conditions, paid leaves, healthcare benefits, regular schedule, etc. - i…

Consider that in a private company, surpluses are paid out to executives and shareholders. How is that not "inefficient"? Meanwhile, workers are paid a subsistence wage of however low the company can get away with paying. In a worker-owned, worker-managed business, those surpluses could be spent on higher wages, lower prices, or increasing productivity. Without having to generate profits for investors and shareholders (who contribute no labor to the enterprise), wouldn't that make a firm much more "efficient"?

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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Are there any resources out there for tech folks that might be interested in working full-time for a non-profit, backed by YC or not? I have a strong interest in these areas but not really in the zone for building a team to apply for YC. Increasingly interested in a career pivot towards working with an organization in these areas however. Where should I look?

Look at companies the fast forward accelerator features on their website (mobile or would link otherwise).

Good tip. Thanks ;)

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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I've rewritten my comment three times so far ... My wife and I are fortunate enough that she can be a stay at home mom. I grew up the same way. Were middle class, though increasingly probably slightly mid to upper these days. We don't need the babysitter, and want our kids to be educated, so that is the focus. We help them with homework, etc. We're lucky. So from my perspective, having both parents working is the roo…

It's not just about money. Even if parents can afford to have one of them be stay at home, neither parent might want to be the one staying at home. Being a stay at higher parent is an incredibly difficult, stressful and under appreciated job so to many well educated couples, it's not appealing at all.

True that - not to mention tedious, mentally understimulating, and comes with a perceived lack of social status. Even for people who love it and can afford it, there are many downsides.

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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They don't do that because they can't afford to do that. That's sad and unfortunate.

Or because its simply inefficient, and you must bear the price of doing it if you want it.

Not everything that matters in life is captured by our economic system. If you have kids I can only hope this will become clear to you.

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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I've rewritten my comment three times so far ... My wife and I are fortunate enough that she can be a stay at home mom. I grew up the same way. Were middle class, though increasingly probably slightly mid to upper these days. We don't need the babysitter, and want our kids to be educated, so that is the focus. We help them with homework, etc. We're lucky. So from my perspective, having both parents working is the roo…

It's not just about money. Even if parents can afford to have one of them be stay at home, neither parent might want to be the one staying at home. Being a stay at higher parent is an incredibly difficult, stressful and under appreciated job so to many well educated couples, it's not appealing at all.

How about having one of the parents work part-time?

True, not all jobs can be offered as part-time, and working part-time limits your career growth if you work for a big corporation, but still, it is a viable option.

Re: Request for Startups: News, Jobs, and Democracy

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The problem of "fake news" is the same as the age old Koan of truth vs. falsehood. Truth is subjective and relative to the time period and cultural mythologies, and is always changing. How can we even begin to solve this apparent problem if we can't even objectively define our variables, lest we become digital Don Quixotes?

"1 + 1 = 2" is true and objective for an infinite time period.

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