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With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Unity and Unreal are all cross platform. As for VS - that was never really a consideration to stay on the platform for a lot of developers.

While they support building for Linux, the editors themselves are only alpha quality on Linux.

They're also on MacOS and not in alpha.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Unity and Unreal are all cross platform. As for VS - that was never really a consideration to stay on the platform for a lot of developers.

> As for VS - that was never really a consideration to stay on the platform for a lot of developers. By what means are you measuring these considerations? Do you have some sort of citation? As a developer, the biggest reasons for me to stay on Windows are Office, IIS, SQL Server and Visual Studio. Nothing on any other platform comes close the the usability of these. Furthermore, knowing these products really well get…

Office is also on the Mac. As for the other apps you mentioned, well, that's very subjective because I completely disagree with your assessment that nothing even comes close on any other platform. To imply that IIS and SQL Server are best of breed is ridiculous.

Also, VS isn't exactly a compelling reason to stay on Windows. Last time I installed VS 2015 it sprayed 30+ GB's of files all over my SSD and installed about 30-40 apps in the process. To say VS 2015 is a bloated pig would be an insult to bloated pigs everywhere.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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If you weren't familiar enough with Microsoft's products to immediately recognize that the acronym "AD" within the context of Microsoft anything, means Active Directory, then you are thousands of dollars, and possibly multiple years away from moving in that direction.

I know a lot of the fundamental concepts in computing, many from when they were nearly new. I knew nearly all the concepts long before Windows, 10, 8.1, 8, 7, Vista, XP, 2000, or NT. I didn't learn the concepts in the context of Microsoft or Windows. So, I learned the concepts before I ever saw any Microsoft acronyms. E.g., I first learned about Kerberos from one of the first papers about it, an article in Scientific…

Okie doke, well, the main point being that Microsoft usually doesn't just want you to buy one thing and call it a day.

Ya gotta buy the server-class license for the OS. And then ya gotta buy a quantity of client licenses for the Professional/Business version of the OS. And then they all need some applications, and then those applications need some non-OS-application server software. And then those application servers need isolation, so each one needs a server OS license of its own, and then, and then, and then...

Setting up windows servers takes time. Not because it's particularly difficult, or technical, but because you are not in control of the process. The software distribution is in control, and will try to phone home. You will wait while the software tries to contact the Microsoft mothership, and the software will not ask you whether such activities are even possible. It will time-out network connections, and possibly refuse to work, before even prompting you about skipping steps. You may need to make phone calls. These are facts about using Microsoft as part of enterprise infrastructure in a business environment.

The entry-level prices for what you seek are here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/windows-serve...

You will spend more than that. By the time you feel comfortable with your configuration, it will be time to upgrade, introducing forced changes to your process, and you will spend more money. You will spend more money on more Microsoft products, and also on peripheral costs which may not be expected but will likely be driven by compatibility choices.

And by the way, Windows 7? They will not even sell you that anymore. Mocrosoft's goal in life is to retire that version of their operating system, and require migration to newer versions.

More to the point, though, all of this was their old business model, more than a decade ago. They are no long interested in this sort of sales pitch, unless you are The Government, or a Financial Institution. Nowadays, they want your servers on their cloud (Azure). It may be cheaper doing that. If you are an addict, already hooked on Microsoft, and there's no going back, consider exploring those options.

If you must be in possession of physical hardware, and if you must run stand-alone systems for the purposes of testing and developing your latest thing, Microsoft gets very expensive very fast, in terms of both time and money.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Once you stop playing games (it happens eventually for many of us), your need to have Windows around will drop considerably. Are there any killer apps other than games to have Windows around @home?

Unfortunately I need to stay with Windows for the moment only for Ableton Live, which is IMO the best Pro Audio/Music creation tool. I can't run it in a VM because only basic sound features work in a VM (I'm using a PCI soundcard, actually thinking about it now, maybe USB3 soundcards could work well in a VM?). Also Photoshop is pretty much the gold standard for image editing, but I could be happy running that in a VM…

Check out Bitwig, it's very similar to Ableton. That said, I can't recommend it right now as it's still quite buggy.

Worth keeping an eye on if you want to get off Windows though.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Both are subpar (and osx or whatever Apple call their offering is no better). I've been stuck in an update hell with windows where security updates simply would not install the only solution I could find was a full re-install. I've been in a similar situation with Ubuntu and was able to fix it - but only because I understood it - otherwise I would have had to do a re-install. The key with Ubuntu updates is to stick t…

That reminds me of another one... (Ubuntu htpc) I can "shut-down" and the remote startup works, but if it actually goes into suspend, I have to hit the actual power button in the cabinet. And more often than not the audio is broken on resume from suspend and I have to completely shut down to fix it (reboot doesn't work)... this is with a core i3-5010u, which is a relatively common intel audio chipset. I agree there a…

Remote startup and wakeup is actually handled by firmware of your mainboard. (or Intel ME) Ubuntu cannot fix hardware problems most of the time.

Drivers still breaking in S3 is often a result of lack of Windows driver workarounds for this case. And Ubuntu using slightly outdated kernel versions.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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No doubt that it never penetrated the desktop market as many of us had hoped it might. It did, however, serve the needs and wants of those of us who'd experienced Unix and wanted that for ourselves. Doing a vastly superior job than the Unixes that started us off in the first place. Speaking for myself, 3.4BSD, Ultrix, SunOS, Solaris, HPUX, DGUX, Irix, AIX, and probably a few others. Plus some other platforms. The rot…

It seems you're suffering symptoms of Poettering Syndrome. The key is to remove all applications he has touched (logind/systemd/NetworkManager/PulseAudio/Avahi), and you'll find yourself with a stable system. Good distros, such as Calculate Linux or Gentoo, help a lot with this. However, should you continue to use Red Hat-based distributions (of which Debian, Arch, and Ubuntu should be considered, post-systemd; packa…

It's funny that even Poettering-enabled version of Gentoo has way less problems than either Ubuntu or Fedora...

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Unfortunately I need to stay with Windows for the moment only for Ableton Live, which is IMO the best Pro Audio/Music creation tool. I can't run it in a VM because only basic sound features work in a VM (I'm using a PCI soundcard, actually thinking about it now, maybe USB3 soundcards could work well in a VM?). Also Photoshop is pretty much the gold standard for image editing, but I could be happy running that in a VM…

Check out Bitwig, it's very similar to Ableton. That said, I can't recommend it right now as it's still quite buggy. Worth keeping an eye on if you want to get off Windows though.

Nowhere near in functionality. It is like suggesting notepad as a replacement for the Eclipse IDE.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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And yet the game Overwatch doesn't have an OSX port so I have windows 10 setup as a dual-boot option. It seems that Microsoft has correctly deduced that users don't really give a fuck. They'll throw a hissy fit, they'll make all sorts of blog posts, but at the end of the day the majority are still staring at a windows 10 installation screen and dealing with it.

Windows VM in KVM/Qemu using GPU Passthrough = sandboxed windows with full-speed games.

Sort of sandboxed. You still need to carefully firewall it to prevent sending usage data to MS.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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The business model hasn't changed. Windows is an always has been a paid product (with some minor variations) and Microsoft is not a significant player in the advertising business. (AOL does sell Bing ads, I think.) Of course, if you have any factual evidence that Windows users are a product, then I'd be interested to hear it.

Why does Windows 10 now phone home to domains like ad.doubleclick.net and adnexus.net?

Metro applets do it. You can remove these from Start menu.
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