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Re: Google Home

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We've all been using one since the 80s: email. The interface is just poorly designed for social networking.

The email we've all been using is not all open-source and end-to-end encrypted, though there are open-source clients, some of which support end-to-end encryption.

em... the only thing that is valid to support end-to-end encryption is the end client. Otherwise it's not end-to-end.

Re: Google Home

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This entire keynote just keeps highlighting that one sentence from the end of Maciej's wonderful http://idlewords.com/talks/internet_with_a_human_face.htm "Yesterday ... I realized how long it had been since I looked at a new technology with wonder, instead of an automatic feeling of dread." EDIT: Speaking of Maciej, if you're not already following him on Twitter, today is the day to do that. He's having a field day…

I'm amazed that people still feel this level of paranoia about stuff, when they have a clear option: do not use the product. Concerned about the privacy implication of Google Home? Don't get one. Don't like the fact that Apple Watch reads biometric data? Get a Casio watch. Don't like the fact that Facebook knows who your friends are? Go out more. The very fact that someone is watching the keynote and going "oh my Gaw…

You are indeed missing something important. We can choose not to use a particular product. But we cannot choose not to use all the products everyone else is using, because that would make us lonely, antisocial hermits without the slightest chance of ever finding work, friends or lovers.

So even if Googlers may find it "amazing" that privacy advocates don't just shut up and go live behind a rock, that's what you're going to have to live with in a free society.

Re: Google Home

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https://jasperproject.github.io/

How accurate is the voice recognition? Even when restricted to a few command phrases, I struggle to see how this can be overly accurate when running on a Raspberry Pi. I've played with voice recognition in the past, and anything less than 98% accuracy is super frustrating after a week of usage. Siri is the most accurate voice recognition software I've used so far, and even Siri regularly fails to understand some word…

It depends on the tts plugin you use. We have build and tested several tts plugins. I can recommend Microsoft Bing Voice and the new Google Speech API. Both are very rarely wrong.

Re: Google Home

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I'm not comfortable with this either, but I recognize it's hypocritical-- after all, smartphones have microphones AND camera and are internet-connected running proprietary software.

There's nothing hypocritical about not wanting FURTHER intrusion... Not to mention, smartphones don't record all you say 24/7 and send it to a foreign data center, except if tampered with. These devices do as their normal operation mode.

Not to be blindingly trustworthy or anything, but I'm pretty sure none of these devices currently state that they send everything you say 24/7 (or more specifically, the Echo). That would, again, only be if it had been tampered with.

Re: Google Home

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I agree. The current trend of outsourcing everything to "the cloud" is partially fashion, partially laziness, and mostly dictated by business models - why do something the right way (from engineering point of view), when you can lock your users up in your own garden and extract rent (either directly, or by spamming them with ads and selling their data)? Our devices have incredible amount of computing power now - a gr…

- Security - Reasonable cost - Availability - Ease of use, especially setup - Eye candy - Social connections If you can check all of those for an FOSS solution, then I think you are home. Unfortunately most of the points are still not available for average Joe users with FOSS. Add to that, most people will give you a blank look when you start discussing how companies own your data, and even those who understand just…

This is more or less what I actually mean:

We have a long way to go with all of the above points before we need megaclouds with asic and huge data *to move the state of art forward.

All of the above be solved without creating a new unicorn startup.

Re: Google Home

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RFP - Request For Project 1. Train Google Home to recognize Amazon Echo's voice as its owner. 2. Train Amazon Echo to recognize Siri's voice as its owner 3. Train Siri to recognize Google Home's voice as its owner 4. Kick start some kind of endless loop between the three of them.

Cortana gets jealous for being out of the party.

Re: Google Home

#398

Ok, controversial opinion: "[...] and manage everyday tasks" What exactly do we want to automate at home? I think this whole home automation and smart home stuff is complete bullshit. Obviously there are some nice things, like "play me song xyz", but IMHO it is completely oversold. There are just not that much things to automate at home. And this does not mean that I think 640K are enough memory for everyone.

I haven't even really explored all the capabilities of Alexa, but I ask Alexa to: 1. read the news (1x per day) 2. play music (~3x per day) 3. turn on/off lights (~8x per day) 4. set a timer (~2x per day) 5. feed the cat (~2x per day... blog post forthcoming)

Feeding the cat automatically is pretty cool, but why not use a timer for that?

Re: Google Home

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laundry would be great too :-)

I have a washing machine for that :-)

We're talking about a fully automated laundry that goes a step beyond a washing machine. It's funny, but one of the hardest unsolved problems is actually folding laundry. Everything else is very easy.

Re: Google Home

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I came here to ask people of examples of use cases because I just can not see how this can be useful in this decade.

I mean, all the turn-key stuff is terrible right now, but I've seen some awesome DIY stuff with Homeseer + IFTTT + bash scripts. My friend's house turns on the front porch light when he gets home, auto-locks the front door if unlocked for more than X minutes, alerts of outside doors that have been open for more than X seconds, dims the lights when he turns on the TV, alerts him when his wife is almost home (she hates…

> yells at the dog if he goes into his office

This is my favorite one

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