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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by st3v3r »

bananaboy wrote: post #346
martin-adams wrote: post #205

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I think if Microsoft want to attract developers to building for Windows (including phones and tablets), then adding first class support in Xamarin and reducing the licensing fees would be a huge win.

But you can build for Windows and Windows Phone right now for free in a better toolset than Xamarin. Visual Studio is much better.

But it's more time and effort, which, when given Windows Phone's anemic marketshare, would probably be better spent improving and adding features to the iOS and Android apps.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by st3v3r »

swalsh wrote: post #179
Animats wrote: post #149

Scary. Xamarin sells tools to support multi-platform app development. Microsoft would want that only to the extent that it assisted migration to Microsoft platforms. Not away from them.

You're thinking of old Microsoft. New Microsoft is all about Azure, the walled gardens of windows is slowly being left behind. Take a look at .NET Core.

Old Microsoft wasn't that long ago.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by Sir_Substance »

pjmlp wrote: post #350
Sir_Substance wrote: post #345

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Xamarin studio can be run against .net on windows, it's not mono specific.

Yes, but what is the value of doing that instead of using Visual Studio?!

Maybe I like it better?

WHY ARE WE ARGUING?

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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by [deleted] »

enraged_camel wrote: post #92
shanselman wrote: post #85

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Nonsense. The last 5 years show it's a whole new Microsoft. Disclaimer: I have been one of the ones pushing the last 5 years to make that statement true. ;)

>>Nonsense. The last 5 years show it's a whole new Microsoft Yeah, that's why Windows 10 sends all your data to Microsoft by default and Windows updates no longer come with detailed explanations of what is in them. /s edit: judging by the downvotes, there's a surprising number of Microsoft fanboys here. I guess all they had to do to win people over was make a few token contributions to the open-source community...

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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by dang »

enraged_camel wrote: post #380
teh_klev wrote: post #314

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> judging by the downvotes, there's a surprising number of Microsoft fanboys here. Seriously, do we need to lower the content level of discussion here to "fanboy" camp accusations, it's not productive. Also, please review the guidelines: Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. Please don't bait other users by inviting them to downvote you or announce that y…

Please stop backseat modding. If you have a problem with a comment, flag it and it will be reviewed. Thanks.

teh_kiev was right, and reminding fellow users of the guidelines is fine. I wish users would do it more.

Indeed I was just about to post the following in reply to your comment above:

Please don't add meta commentary about downvotes and who you imagine downvoted you. It's against the HN guidelines (two of them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) and is invariably tedious.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by EvanPlaice »

migueldeicaza wrote: post #386
EvanPlaice wrote: post #220

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Kinda funny how things work out. Back when MS broadcasted OSX/ nix compatibility for Visual Studio I felt it necessary to comment that .NET development has been supported in OSX/ nix for over a decade. In short, Miguel De Icaza should be awarded a medal from MS for his heroic effort in developing the Mono platform and tooling; in spite of the constant threat of legal action from Microsoft for 'patent infringement' of…

Thank you for the kind words and the perspective. Luckily, we will be joining a new Microsoft (pending regulatory approval), one lead by Satya which has a different vision for the company. We are excited about what this means for Xamarin's products, for our customers, for our users, for our employees, but most of all, we are excited about what we can achieve inside Microsoft for all of Microsoft's customers, and the…

Thank you for all your hard work on Mono and bringing .NET to the OSS ecosystem.

Hopefully, the regulatory approval stuff works out without issue.

Microsoft needs better representation in OSS and I can't think of anybody better equipped to assist them in that direction.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by niutech »

douche wrote: post #154
ta_donk_gt wrote: post #135

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"Works quite well" is a phrase I've never used with Xamarin. I stopped using it about a year ago for two reasons: (1) _every_single_release_ would break my apps and would then require spending inordinate amounts of time trying to get things building again, and (2) I could no longer justify paying for the professional edition just to be able to use Visual Studio on my hobby projects. I am very much hoping that both of…

Yeah, that thousand dollar per developer price tag is a little steep. I built out a cool little proof of concept app in it last year on a trial license, but it was just not worth it to go in at that price on it, when a mobile client would effectively just be a free feature for us. Using one of the webview wrappers was the better decision at that time.

As an alternative, you can use RemObjects Silver (multiplatform Swift + .NET) for free.
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