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I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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I sympathize with the author, the path to a green card is ridiculous. [1] But that's where my sympathies stop. It's not a hidden process either. If staying here matters to you better work tirelessly to put yourself on a path to permanent residency and you better be the one to push it daily or it won't happen. Here we have a highly educated, Ivy Leaguer with a LAW DEGREE , who didn't. But about 500,000 people a year d…

> It doesn't appear that in 15 years, the author bothered to do that.

The author seems to have a very specific mindset, that possibly only some New Zealanders and North Europeans have, that they feel it's morally wrong to try to game the system.

He tried to play by the rules. Not only in letter, but also in spirit, and he assumed the system would respond in kind.

If you are from a country where gaming the system is the social norm, this mindset may be very difficult to understand.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Disclaimer: I am a Canadian permanent resident. > I like it here. This is the real problem, you have a severe case of non-reciprocal love. In that case the answer is obvious: move over, find another love, come to Canada or go to Northern Europe. U.S. immigration is an American problem,since they are the ones loosing talent and entrepreneurial people. It is not an immigrant's problem, since they don't have the powers…

Claiming the "love" is unrequited rests on the assumption that policy is at least strongly correlated with the people's will. As far as anyone can tell, this is simply not true. Hence, average American people can like someone without that acceptance being written into policy.

> Claiming the "love" is unrequited rests on the assumption that policy is at least strongly correlated with the people's will.

It is, the average American doesn't like open immigration and they don't want immigrants taking their jobs especially after years of recession. Our immigration policy sucks because our people suck.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Disclaimer: I am a Canadian permanent resident. > I like it here. This is the real problem, you have a severe case of non-reciprocal love. In that case the answer is obvious: move over, find another love, come to Canada or go to Northern Europe. U.S. immigration is an American problem,since they are the ones loosing talent and entrepreneurial people. It is not an immigrant's problem, since they don't have the powers…

> Here in Canada we have a much more open immigration policy "Much more open" is a relative term, I suppose. I am a Canadian citizen, born in Canada with all my family (save my wife) living in Canada. I live in Japan with my wife who is Japanese. A few years ago my wife wanted to move to an English speaking country so that she could improve her English and live abroad. I'll just be plain. It was easier for me to get…

Is there a reason why you are not eligible to sponsor your wife for an immigrant visa?

In most Anglo countries, you'd have to wait for its approval (about 6-9 months) before your wife moved to that country. Is that what you're trying to avoid?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/spouse.asp

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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>The unpleasant fact is that proper integration costs money // For those selecting to immigrate why not put the onus on them to integrate too? Why should the onus be on the established population to adapt? [That's obviously not appropriate for some classes of migrant like refugees, but I'm sure that's clear.] >The alternative is to create an underclass visibly different to the majority - that doesn't end well. // Mus…

>Pensions are basically a massive pyramid scheme; it's going to fail eventually. The only way it can continue is if there is no limit on availability of natural resources for the manufacture of new stuff on which Western Capitalism appears to depend. This is a common misconception. You should do some research on what is known as "productivity growth" and then come back for a rational discussion.

You should give at least some semblance of a reason why "productivity growth" prevents pensions from being pyramid schemes instead of implicitly dismissing the parent commenter's remark as irrational discussion.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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post #364

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America hasn't bankrupted itself "raising the children of others". America has accepted others into its family, and grown stronger and wealthier because of it. Thomas Paine: immigrant Andrew Carnegie: immigrant Nikola Tesla: immigrant Igor Sikorsky: immigrant Albert Einstein: immigrant Cary Grant: immigrant William Shockley (co-inventor of the transistor): immigrant Wernher Von Braun: immigrant Eddie Van Halen: immig…

And you forgot the 19 9/11 hijackers who killed more than 3000 Americans : immigrants .

I didn't take the time to look up all 19, but the ringleaders (Mohamed Atta, et. al.) entered on nonimmigrant visas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_...

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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post #337

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Not the parent, but: From the perspective of the students, yes, there is a financial transfer to the U.S. However, from national perspective, there is an economic transfer to the other nation. The U.S. university system represents the product of decades (centuries in some cases) of public and private investment. Foreign students and the societies they return to get the benefit of that investment - a better educated t…

You think all those going to school in the US are brilliant students? There are a ton of students who just have money and go to school in the US. They go to US universities who are in part propped up by the money spent by these students. Having these type of students go back is not a lose. In fact they bring with them a demand for American goods, and culture.

I said it was foreign aid, in that it benefits their home countries more than the US. But economics is not zero-sum, so just because it amounts to foreign aid doesn't mean it's a loss per se, just that the US could be getting more out of the deal than it currently is.

I think it would probably be better for everyone if we streamlined the process of transitioning from an H1B to permanent residency, and it would definitely be better for the US economy.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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post #233

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@hagmonk You have made some very good points. However "Not every immigrant is an Indian and not every unemployed American is a reprogrammable robot, able to do any open position I have on my books." is true but incomplete. Not every Indian is a cheap immigrant who's willing to work for less than their American counterparts. H1b was meant to "supplement" American workforce and not to "replace" them. Also in majority c…

I agree that comment was probably unnecessary, but to be fair he said "... this assumption that foreign workers are cheap Indians on H-1Bs". He did not say all Indians are cheap or on H-1B's.

Yes, @dreamcatcher is misinterpreting my sentiment, or I was not clear in communicating it. I absolutely do not support any racial stereotypes of Indians or anyone else - my point is that others do this because they wish to oversimplify the immigration argument.

I have an Indian guy on my team going through the visa process just like me, so slandering of Indian workers hits especially close to home. He's the only other person in my entire office who knows for sure that cricket is the superior sport … without him I'd be alone and defenseless amongst baseball nerds!!

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