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Re: Nexus 6

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Post by chrisBob »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #145
chrisBob wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure if I would notice if a pixel count changed by a factor of 1.2, but when you double the resolution (4x the pixels) the difference is dramatic. The screens on my iPad2 and iPad4 are very different, and while I didn't mind it when it was new, the iPad2 now has painfully low resolution.

> he screens on my iPad2 and iPad4 are very different, and while I didn't mind it when it was new, the iPad2 now has painfully low resolution. Absolutely! But that's going from 132 PPI to 264 PPI. Obviously there's diminishing returns at play here. The difference between 1000 million PPI and 2000 PPI, I'd wager, isn't going to make an actual impact on someone's viewing experience. And I really wonder if a change from…

To some degree it depends on your vision. The 264 PPI is about my resolution limit. My boss probably couldn't tell the difference with more than 100PPI.

I should be able to tell you the theoretical diffraction limit based on a 5mm pupil at 18", but unfortunately...

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by derekp7 »

whizzkid wrote: post #339
DCKing wrote: post #303

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> Its simply too large for the average user. > Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices? I think it's quite bold to speak in such factual terms when talking about the "average" consumer or the market. Your opinion does not necessarily apply to everyone, or even the majority of the users. Not that I disagree with you, mind. It seems to me that these ma…

I disagree with you. Just because a kid wants more chocolate does not mean you should give it to him. It may make him happy at first but is not good for him in long run. What are people/me saying here is that, we should/can achieve the same functionality with smaller phones. We should. In hundred years, people will laugh at these phones! Too big considering what it does and provides to people.

This reminds me of what a very wise person (a business owner I used to work for) once told me. In an answer to the question "Isn't the customer always right?", he told me "No, not always. And when they are wrong, it is our job to convince them otherwise. If successful you will have a customer for life."

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by toyg »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #123
toyg wrote: post #91

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> does anyone actually notice the difference Yes.

You notice pixel density between 400 and 450, or 450 and 500 when holding the phone normally (at say a bit less than an arm's length usually) I mean, I notice FPS changes from 60 to 90, but I wouldn't pay even a dollar extra for it. I'm not actually wondering if you can notice, I'm wondering if it makes an actual impact on your viewing experience. And if so, if that impact (however big or small, feel free to elaborat…

I don't have any studies or stats to back me up, am just going by personal experience here.

I'd rather spend a few dollars more for a higher-res screen than for a few hours of battery. The impact on my quality of life (less eyestrain, less migraines) has been really noticeable since I managed to get "retina-like" resolutions on all my devices, and since then I've been a true believer in the benefits of the race for pixel density. I just wish they'd blast a little less light at me (e-ink is still in another league), but I guess one can't have it all (yet).

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by deet »

computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

Regarding size, keep in mind the changes in Android will make it easier to use the phone with one hand despite the larger size.

The floating action button in material design places important, frequently used action within thumb's distance.

Android's use of the back button is also beneficial for larger screens, since back is an extremely common action and keeping at the bottom of the screen reduces reach distance.

There will definitely be cases when it will be inconvenient to have a large screen (in fact personally I'm disappointed it's > 5") but the problems can be alleviated by software.

You can see it today by switching back and forth between Android and iOS. iOS design has not yet adapted to the larger size and is more inconvenient to use one handed (for example, the swipe to go back gesture is not universal and exiting dialogs often requires hitting a "Done" button at the top of the screen.) But as the software changes the size will become more acceptable.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by richbradshaw »

andybak wrote: post #259
julianpye wrote: post #241

What keeps me off buying another Playstore device is Google's terrible customer support, especially before they can command such a premium price. I have an unresponsive Nexus 4. I cannot just send it in for warranty repair. In order to return it, I have to go through a list of steps on their website, then get on a phoneline on which they state I have to wait for 45 minute to get a customer rep. Often the line is inte…

Weird. I returned a Nexus 4 last year and got faultless support. I was gobsmacked.

Same, between me and my parents, we've replaced three Nexus 4s, all really easily without issue.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by mrtidy »

Tloewald wrote: post #346
whizzkid wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree with you. Just because a kid wants more chocolate does not mean you should give it to him. It may make him happy at first but is not good for him in long run. What are people/me saying here is that, we should/can achieve the same functionality with smaller phones. We should. In hundred years, people will laugh at these phones! Too big considering what it does and provides to people.

Most android handsets are sold as candy and not fruit and vegetables. More GHz, more pixels, more mAh, more inches. Why should this be any different?

I want more gee bees!

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by skynetv2 »

DCKing wrote: post #303
computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

> Its simply too large for the average user. > Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices? I think it's quite bold to speak in such factual terms when talking about the "average" consumer or the market. Your opinion does not necessarily apply to everyone, or even the majority of the users. Not that I disagree with you, mind. It seems to me that these ma…

I moved from a Galaxy Nexus to LG G3, which is smaller than the Nexus 6 and I find it incredibly hard to use. Can barely use it with one hand and it doesnt fit in my shirt pocket, sticks out, cant put it in my pant pockets, because it will break. Its very inconvenient size wise. awesome phone though and excellent battery life.

Galaxy Nexus was so small I could put it anywhere on me and it would be just fine. Awesome to hold in one hand.

Google just excluded itself from a large market and is competing only in phablet space.

I guess with Moto X staying in the more average size space, they want to get in to phablet space, which is fine.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by k2enemy »

jarjoura wrote: post #324
prlambert wrote: post #310

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This screen size is so, so disappointing. I'm an iphone 5s user and was eagerly awaiting the new Nexus to make the switch to Android. But 6" is a tablet that can make calls, not a phone. I WANT to switch to Android/Nexus for hundreds of reasons but this screen size is a deal break. I need a phone I can use like... a phone. I've tried the iphone 6 plus in person and it's a monstrosity to use, definitely not a one hand…

Sony is making a smaller Android device, the "Z3 Compact," exactly for the reasons you list.

Your comment got me excited -- but I looked up the size of the Z3 "compact" and it is larger in every dimension than my iPhone 5s.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by ejp »

kaahne wrote: post #22

If I scroll to the "Introducing Lollipop, our sweetest release yet" section, there's a google now card for a coffee place I've been to recently (in Portland, OR for that matter ...). It's uncanny...

I see that card as well!

I am nowhere near Portland. I suspect you just got lucky. :)

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by wlesieutre »

wlesieutre wrote: post #100
romanovcode wrote: post #5

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4k monitors are not that rare/pricy. You can get pretty cheap 60hz ones from Asus and the best ones from DELL. Problem is that most consumers who would buy those monitors would expect every application to run on it without problem, that includes games and for that you need to spend a lot of money on GPUs.

Before anyone goes jumping on the "best ones" from Dell, take a read through this 35 page support discussion about their UP2414Q: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/35... Anecdotal, but a friend and I both have problems with ours, and he got lucky with the 1.1 firmware revision (Dell won't let you upgrade it, you have to go through support for a replacement, and they'll send you a refurb that m…

    UPDATE
My friend's 3rd display just came in this afternoon. When he plugs it in and turns it on, the computer stops responding. When he turns it off, the computer resumes working normally.

Ordinarily I would scream "driver problem" at that one, but the 2nd screen did not have this problem with the same GPU and driver installation. (That one just randomly disconnected and reconnected every 30 seconds or so)

He's trying it on different computers next, further updates as events warrant...

    UPDATE 2
Hooked up to his Mac. It flickers on and then goes blank.

Even running at 30 Hz on single-stream transport, it doesn't work over DisplayPort. HDMI works at 30 Hz, but DisplayPort 1.2 with MST is the only option with enough bandwidth for 4k at 60 Hz.

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