Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by r00fus » Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 9:43 PM UTC

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #351

hooplarbazaar wrote: post #331

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That's very disingenuous. Amazon, PayPal and Google rely on selling your data and selling you products based on your data to make money. Visa, Mastercard and Amex mostly rely on transaction processing fees, and make extra money on the data processing in a very limited way. What Apple are doing is removing the middleman, purely making this about transactions, not data. This means they're avoiding selling private infor…

It's not that I don't care about this; it's that Apple is doing this cynically and for short term gain, not for substantial benefit. If they care about this as more than a marketing ploy, they would have set up an organization to set policies and to verify adherence. That would have been awesome. "blah blah blah, and we don't store your financial information or transaction history. That's easy to say, but the pendulu…

While I share your intentions, as a practical measure, I doubt Apple could have dictated those terms to their financial partners. Have you ever tried dictating terms to a bank?

De-facto useless organizations like your FISO example with not enough players on board to start with are just lip service. Essentially you're arguing that Apple should be doing the governments job...

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by visionscaper » Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 9:49 PM UTC

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #187

First no video, then constant mixing between the TV Truck schedule, a video of the crowd, a video of the presentation screen showing the apple logo, a message showing apple copyright. Refreshed a few times, got 'access denied to server' page a few times. Then got video with Chinese translations talking over the presenter. Then it suddenly stopped, I pressed 'resume' to get the TV truck schedule again. On an iPad.

What I'm missing in this sub-thread is guesses as to what went wrong. The video quality of all past Apple events I've watched where border line perfect, and I've seen quite a lot of them! Any ideas?

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by jerhinesmith » Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 10:05 PM UTC

derengel wrote: post #338

jerhinesmith wrote: post #206

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I use a macbook air all day for work. I built my windows box when I was doing .NET development, but I've long since switched to ruby -- ideally I'd like to have both running the same OS (which I guess could be a flavor of linux, but I'm too lazy for that).

Do you use to the mba without an external monitor and keyboard? I can seem to adjust to developing all day on laptop, thus wanting a mac mini upgrade.

Well, I share my desktop machine with my girlfriend. I could easily get by with a clean desk at home and just the MBA -- that said, it's not completely up to me. :)

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by Zigurd » Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 10:14 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #247

sytelus wrote: post #241

Summary: 2 new iPhone models: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus. iPhone 6 is 4.7", iPhone 6 Plus is 5.5". Power button on right side. A8 chip - 13% smaller chip, 25% faster CPU, 50% faster GPU, 50% more energy efficient than A7. Battery a little better on the iPhone 6; iPhone 6 Plus has amazing battery life. VoLTE (Voice over LTE) - make calls over LTE internet instead of using minutes. Camera is still 8MP... YouTube video…

> VoLTE (Voice over LTE) - make calls over LTE internet instead of using minutes. That's would have been a killer feature if it had occurred when smartphones were new enough that providers were selling plans with limited call minutes and unlimited data, but now that virtually every carrier has smartphone plans that are unlimited phone minutes/unlimited text and limited data with surcharges for data overages, who is l…

VoLTE is all-IP, but it is not an "OTT" technology. It's "carrier SIP for your phone number." At best, it could deliver higher voice quality between compatible endpoints. But it hasn't taken off because the advantages are mostly theoretical.

Being a carrier voice product, it probably will not have any advantages over other carrier voice products, e.g. international calls will still be the same price, etc.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by CoffeeDregs » Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 10:35 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #381

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that I don't care about this; it's that Apple is doing this cynically and for short term gain, not for substantial benefit. If they care about this as more than a marketing ploy, they would have set up an organization to set policies and to verify adherence. That would have been awesome. "blah blah blah, and we don't store your financial information or transaction history. That's easy to say, but the pendulu…

While I share your intentions, as a practical measure, I doubt Apple could have dictated those terms to their financial partners. Have you ever tried dictating terms to a bank? De-facto useless organizations like your FISO example with not enough players on board to start with are just lip service. Essentially you're arguing that Apple should be doing the governments job...

    I doubt Apple could have dictated those terms to their financial partners.
    Have you ever tried dictating terms to a bank?

Why are we talking about banks? They have loads of partners besides banks/financial-partners...

    De-facto useless organizations like your FISO example

Having been involved with or setting up [non-financial] organizations, I would hope not to make useless suggestions...

I'm suggesting something along the lines of BrainTree's data portability organization (http://www.portabilitystandard.org/). Apple should be able to get a raft of players on board for something along those lines. If not, my original point stands: Apple was making a useless gesture.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by krorange » Wed, Sep 10, 2014, 2:31 AM UTC

hahah.. from all videos player i think apple video player sucks!!. I hate that.. not to say Apple event last night (MY time). I think youtube or google services are better video player. hmm.. why apple always wanted to create and use their own video player but they denide to develop it. I cannot play video in some websites. Sucks!!! Apple should change this. BTW Im apple fan though.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by krorange » Wed, Sep 10, 2014, 2:31 AM UTC

hahah.. from all videos player i think apple video player sucks!!. I hate that.. not to say Apple event last night (MY time). I think youtube or google services are better video player. hmm.. why apple always wanted to create and use their own video player but they denide to develop it. I cannot play video in some websites. Sucks!!! Apple should change this. BTW Im apple fan though.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by catshirt » Wed, Sep 10, 2014, 3:23 AM UTC

catshirt wrote: post #278

ldng wrote: post #248

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Or maybe a whole bunch of people don't live in the same time zone as you.

dude, what?

oh come on, 5 downvotes? like I'm the only one who didn't contemplate the complete lack of contextual or critical thought in the parent response

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by catshirt » Wed, Sep 10, 2014, 3:27 AM UTC

sbarre wrote: post #304

ksec wrote: post #299

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I dont normally agree with these kind of things but honestly this time they deserve it. If this event ( and iWatch ) is really that important ( for Apple ) then this is the biggest screw up ever. Thousands ( possibly millions ) of People waiting and hoping to share the moment together and watching it live and be disappointed. This is the worst user experience ever.

And you really think people should lose their jobs over this? What's wrong with you?

so you've never worked on or anywhere near a live production. am I right?

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by catshirt » Wed, Sep 10, 2014, 3:30 AM UTC

krzrak wrote: post #332

Zikes wrote: post #318

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Well, that's sort of how business works, isn't it? I mean, they didn't just pick a few random techs and say "make this happen", they have people whose very job is the technology involved in making this thing happen. If someone demonstrates they fundamentally can't do their job, do you keep them on the payroll or do you find someone else who can get the job done?

I am sure they are the best for such jobs in the future - they won't screw up next time :)

i'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I sense a lot of trigger happy fanboys in this thread.

your point is totally valid. the odds these guys screw up again like this seem slim. especially if they were to lose their job over it.