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Re: Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only

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Pro (not bro) tip: 1. PAGER=less; export PAGER 2. man somecmd 3. Type "G" and hit ctrl-b once or twice Examples in man pages! Who knew?

Not sure if you are joking. But G takes you to the end of the man page and ctrl-b one page up. Only rarely will that show you any examples.

Re: Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only

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I took a poll of the other person in our hackerspace right now: she thinks this is funny. >Isn't it way more offensive to assume that women are such dainty delicate creatures that like, they won't get the joke? I think so. Every female hacker I've ever talked to has expressed that their worst fear is people acting differently around them. They want to get treated like humans , not like outsiders. Banishing any sort o…

As others have said, it doesn't matter if you can find a counter example. So you have a sample size of 1 and you think that matters at all?

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Re: Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only

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Absolutely, lets throw away our sense of humor and wordplay because there are theoretically people that might be offended (maybe, kindof. You know. In theory.). (N.B. the people that seem to be offended so far are offended on other peoples behalf..) Isn't it way more offensive to assume that women are such dainty delicate creatures that like, they won't get the joke?

Another offended man checking in. Why is it so hard to accept that sexist language and actions are offensive to men? I suspect that most people would agree that white people can be offended by the use of terms like "nigger", or jokes about slavery. So then why can't men be offended by misogynistic language or jokes that are likely to create a hostile environment for women? I clicked, I saw the name and was a little t…

Are you seriously putting words "bro" and "nigger" in same category? Do you miss some screws in your head?

Re: Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only

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> Was man also misogynistic? man is short for manual. What is bro short for?

Brochure. Which, despite the tounge-in-cheek joke I was trying to make, actually tends to be a shorter and more example driven document about a product.

That's actually hilarious. Very clever. I don't think the people complaining about the name in this thread will appreciate the joke, though.

Re: Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only

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From the Wikipedia link in your profile I see you invented Google's "Don't Be Evil' motto. At least now I finally understand how they manage to still hold on to that. As long as you redefine evil to exclude things you don't feel other people should be hurt by you're all clear!

Evil is teaching people to view themselves as weak victims at every available opportunity.

Wait; did you just define calling out a needlessly offensive name as evil?

You do realise that would sort of be making the exact point I was trying to make, right? Or am I missing some seriously self-deprecating joke here?

Re: Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only

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My argument is that women have a sense of humor and we don't have to infantilize them by acting like they can't take a joke. Clearly I'm a patriarchal monster. Thank god we have all these social justice warriors to protect women from the word bro.

Yes, women have a sense of humor, and in general they're really good at taking a joke from time to time. But if you keep your eyes open, you'll eventually notice that women (especially in tech) wind up having to "take a joke" all the friggin' time. And that gets really old. I mean, seriously, look at this very example. Imagine that the "bro" command became a standard tool. Now picture a woman being stuck typing "bro"…

Except: the joke isn't even directed at women. Women aren't being asked to "take the joke" here because it has nothing to do with women. The only tie to women here is from self proclaimed social justice warriors decrying the fact that someone might call something "bro".

Re: Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only

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The term "bro" has been closely associated in the tech world lately with things like "brogrammer" culture. I don't know whether that was the intended reference in this case (though it seems pretty likely to me that something of the sort was on the authors' minds when they chose the name: why else would the term feel relevant?). But the real issue isn't "What did they intend?" in any case: it's "What impact might this…

Here's the problem with your argument: since there's nothing actually hostile towards women on that page, what you're basically saying is that any expression of male culture at all is "hostile". It's like saying "stop being men! it's chasing all the women away!".

His whole point was that what is on that page IS hostile to many women in the community or thinking about joining it. You don't get to decide what offends or hurts other people. If the authors had wanted this to be a cute in-joke for the bros, then why did they publish it to the entire world? Why not just send it around to their male friends, but use a more appropriate (and they KNEW the name wasn't appropriate because they tried to cutely head off controversy in their examples) name when they launched it to the public?
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