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Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by euank »

pacificmint wrote: post #350
euank wrote: post #279

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You don't need to. Since subsonic is Open Source, there's naturally multiple forks with the licensing code removed. The best fork, which also adds features, is madsonic[0]. I recommend it. In addition, if you already have subsonic, the license code is simply a check if your password = the md5 of your email. So using "example@example.com" and "23463b99b62a72f26ed677cc556c44e8" will make it think you're a valid subscri…

> the license code is simply a check if your password = the md5 of your email That used to be the case, but the newer versions actually phone home and verify the license.

Thanks for the information. It was true the last time I used subsonic, but that isn't all that recently. Still, I have no doubt it wouldn't be hard to remove it from the code.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by tsumnia »

badman_ting wrote: post #286
tsumnia wrote: post #164

There are ultimately two types of people in the comments right now: those that will miss Winamp and those laughing it was still around. Winamp worked. It played all your MP3s without any of the other fluff. It played your music in a very lightweight program. What was also nice was this was before every program auto-updated; so you'd manually have to go update it; except, the newer versions were adding features, not f…

It worked for playing MP3s, but once you had a collection of a certain size it didn't do a very good job of managing that collection, at least at the time I stopped using it. You'd double-click an MP3 or a playlist and it would completely forget about everything that was in there before. I got so sick of that.

I won't lie, this was probably the only annoyance I had with Winamp; however, years ago, I just decided Winamp was the 'everything' playlist on shuffle and if I ever had a hankering for a specific song, I'd use VLC. If I ever accidentally did it in Winamp, it was just a simple 'Add Folder' click away. I still feel that issue wasn't a complete deal breaker though. Everything else ran swimmingly.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by jlu »

tteam wrote: post #294
hyrehas wrote: post #275

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Tonido sucks. Nothing but issues and problems with it and support is non-existent. Stay away!

you just created an account to say this :). Looks like we are getting popular. Please check our forum, our community and make an informed decision.

@team tonido: just tried the newer v4.* version and it totally rocks, like 10x better than previous one, good jobs !

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by niels_olson »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #74

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

you should check out subsonic

http://subsonic.org/

I like the isub app for iphone, but there are android apps too: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/apps.jsp

I find subsonic works best with a friend or two participating. A miniature music club if you will.

If you already have a large library, you can use beets to organize it in a separate database (this is our current project) http://beets.radbox.org/

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by zanny »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #128

I prefer Clementine, Amarok, and Rhythmbox. No point using a proprietary app when there's plenty of open-source apps which are just as good if not better...

As someone who adores Clementine, using it all the time, and as someone who has contributed patches (both bug and feature) to it, it isn't lean. My instance right now (running for over a week straight, playing music most of the time, I have around a dozen playlists open, and I have it auto download a half dozen podcasts) has 122M of resident memory usage, and 85 minutes of execution time on an i7 at 4.5ghz.

A really lean music player wouldn't use more than a dozen MB of resident memory (after whatever libraries need loaded, but since i run KDE Clementine isn't bearing the blunt of Qt loading) but Clementine intentionally caches a lot of information to make the UI lag less and make transitions seamless.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by lttlrck »

smrtinsert wrote: post #192
rm999 wrote: post #100

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> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…

There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…

All my iTunes Match content came/comes from CDs. I still buy physical media from Amazon when it makes sense (most of the time).

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by NamTaf »

tzury wrote: post #157

Show me one product/service/platform that got acquired by AOL and got better/bigger at there. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_AOL

Mirabilis, with ICQ? I don't remember when it peaked but it certainly was huge. I was using it heavily around 2000-2003.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by cenhyperion »

rm999 wrote: post #100
jaysonelliot wrote: post #74

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…

I'm somewhere in between. I stream my music from a server that I own and control. Virtually unlimited storage + full control of the data = :)

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by nnnnni »

rjbwork wrote: post #233
fletchowns wrote: post #205

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That's why you run your own "cloud" music service. Personally I use Subsonic, and it is amazing. http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp

I also use subsonic and love it. It's unfortunate that the author moved to a monthly/yearly subscription model. Luckily, I am grandfathered into a lifetime premium membership with a free dynamic DNS address, which is really nice.

Or you can use Supersonic or Madsonic, which are forks without the "forced donation for open source software" problem.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by serf »

dkersten wrote: post #367
ams6110 wrote: post #343

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From the site: Based on Java technology Ugh.. lost me. I don't run Java anything anymore.

Serious question: why?

Well, I wouldn't let Java stop me from using something, but to play devil's advocate :

"Because I have a resource limited platform in which I cannot handle many dependencies."

Subsonic on a Cubieboard is a dreary task.

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