Nexus 5 • Hacker News Board

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by vph » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 2:57 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #281

laughfactory wrote: post #265

I LOVE my Nexus 4 (running on Straight Talk) and can't wait to upgrade to the Nexus 5. The Nexus 4 has been my single favorite Android smartphone EVER. And I've previously owned a host of Android smartphones. Most of them just didn't work as well as advertised. The Nexus 4 does. Previously I had a Galaxy Note, for example, which I absolutely hated. It had all kinds of lag and performance issues, and I really hated ge…

If you're happy with your Nexus 4 why would you waste money on a 5?

Because he will be happier with the 5.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 3:15 PM UTC

Zak wrote: post #191

OoTheNigerian wrote: post #6

As an African/Nigerian I am not even allowed to see what it looks like. Talk less of trying to make a purchase [1]. Last Night, I had to lie that I am in the US so I would be allowed to by Remote by 37Signals on my kindle. Quite ridiculous and annoying. http://imgur.com/eS8agor

Google really loves their geolocation. It's a bit absurd that when I'm signed in to Google, they still try to give me sites in German, Czech or Swedish based on my location when I've expressed my preference for English in my account settings (not to mention the browser's Accept-Language header). I'm guessing here, but I think there might be some correlation between people who travel internationally a lot and people w…

That's my biggest gripe with Google. I'm Spanish, but for most of the subjects I typically search for (programming, research, etc.) I prefer to get results in English. I have everything in my Google preferences set to English, but Google insists on prioritizing pages in Spanish. So often I search for an API documentation, for example, and I have to skip through a bunch of incomplete or outdated translations before I find the original English page I was looking for.

Some years ago, I used the workaround of going to www.google.co.uk (google.com would still prioritize Spanish, but other regional versions, like co.uk, would show results in their language), but now it no longer works. No matter if I go to the Swedish, German or Chinese versions, and no matter my Google preferences, I still get results in Spanish.

Sometimes I even use inferior search engines due to this.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by Fundlab » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 3:32 PM UTC

tarice wrote: post #267

Fundlab wrote: post #148

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100 minutes of talk is pretty meagre I would rather opt for MetroPCS starting from $40 a month with unlimited talk, data and text. http://www.metropcs.com/metro/detail/MetroPCS_SIM_Card/61021...

I look at it this way: Plan #1: $30 for 100 minutes, with $0.10 a minute afterwards. Plan #2: $40 for unlimited minutes with MetroPCS. So, if I manage to talk less than 100min + ($50 - $40)/$0.10 = 200 minutes per month, then I end up spending less than I would on the MetroPCS plan.

I talk well over 300 minutes a month but I get your point

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by rfnslyr » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 3:33 PM UTC

magnet_ball wrote: post #375

laughfactory wrote: post #318

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That's exactly how I feel. I'm absolutely overjoyed that I can buy a phenomenal phone--every bit the equal of an iPhone 5S (in my opinion)--for a fraction of the price. And my wife goes through phones so quickly that she's always in need of a new one. But since she's so hard on her phones, she always gets my hand-me-downs. It's a great system. I get the latest and greatest (like the Nexus 5) because I take good care…

It annoys me that people can't keep their phones in working order, you have paid hundreds of dollars on this piece of equipment and you treat it like a piece of shit and in 6 months you complain that it doesn't work?? Maybe if you had treated it like the delicate piece of machinery that it is it wouldn't have broken. It's a blatant disregard for money and it annoys me deeply when I see someone throwing their 5 inches…

I'm sure the phones feelings were taken into consideration though.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by loudmax » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 3:41 PM UTC

easytiger wrote: post #373

imurray wrote: post #347

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I used X11 forwarding over SSH to run a browser on my VPS Running a browser remotely in that way can be quite painful. Running Firefox locally you can tell it to use a socks proxy on localhost:1080 after connecting to your VPS with "ssh -D 1080". You may also want to set the about:config setting network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to true. Or you could use VPN software, but that's more to setup, and you already have ssh a…

Well that is the wrong thing to do in that situation. Just use ssh -D to set up a socks proxy and use your local browser via your remote VPS. I fail to see how that isn't obvious

I fail to see how that isn't obvious

ssh -D sounds like a good solution to the problem. ssh is a powerful tool with a lot of options that are well worth learning. Many of these options are not, however, "obvious". If you doing anything with UI, I hope you aren't in the mindset that every every feature is obvious.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by Zenst » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 4:53 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #334

Zenst wrote: post #321

What bugs me is the exchange rate used. $349 is not close to £299, more like £220, sure allow margin for flexability etc. But still £80 more however you look at it just a bit evil. Least the exchange rate on the 32GBversion is less evil, but still evil.

Did you account for VAT? That 20% pushes your £220 up to £264 ... Only 35 quid difference.

No I did not, you are correct that could and would make a difference. Though no mention was made that stoof out too me regarding VAT. Indeed do the $ prices include any form of TAX/VAT/sales TAX?

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by dman » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 4:57 PM UTC

Zak wrote: post #361

mtgx wrote: post #359

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It's a high-end phone, just like iPhone 5S. If you want a mid-range phone, you can look at cheaper ones.

The Nexus 5 is also a high-end phone that's spec-comparable to the iPhone 5S. For me, and I think a lot of other people, the Nexus brand has come to mean high specs, stock software, future upgrades and low price . Those asking for an iPhone-size Nexus are asking for a device under $400.

I think apple, google and amazon are in a unique position because they can sell hardware at or below cost. These companies have other ways in which to make money off the userbase. Its hard to expect hardware companies to be able to cope with this. What this means in the long term I dont know, but I think its going to become increasingly harder for pure hardware companies to beat ecosystem companies on cost.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by dman » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 4:57 PM UTC

Zak wrote: post #361

mtgx wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a high-end phone, just like iPhone 5S. If you want a mid-range phone, you can look at cheaper ones.

The Nexus 5 is also a high-end phone that's spec-comparable to the iPhone 5S. For me, and I think a lot of other people, the Nexus brand has come to mean high specs, stock software, future upgrades and low price . Those asking for an iPhone-size Nexus are asking for a device under $400.

I think apple, google and amazon are in a unique position because they can sell hardware at or below cost. These companies have other ways in which to make money off the userbase. Its hard to expect hardware companies to be able to cope with this. What this means in the long term I dont know, but I think its going to become increasingly harder for pure hardware companies to beat ecosystem companies on cost.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by 00rion » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 4:58 PM UTC

laughfactory wrote: post #265

I LOVE my Nexus 4 (running on Straight Talk) and can't wait to upgrade to the Nexus 5. The Nexus 4 has been my single favorite Android smartphone EVER. And I've previously owned a host of Android smartphones. Most of them just didn't work as well as advertised. The Nexus 4 does. Previously I had a Galaxy Note, for example, which I absolutely hated. It had all kinds of lag and performance issues, and I really hated ge…

Galaxy S4 with Cyanogenmod is pretty awesome. The camera is much better and you can setup everything exactly as you want.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by cptskippy » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 6:37 PM UTC

josteink wrote: post #380

cptskippy wrote: post #378

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I doubt anyone at Google was thrilled about dropping support but I suspect this was an unavoidable conclusion they came to based on the loss of support from the supplier of the CPU for the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy Nexus uses a TI OMAP CPU and last September(2012) TI announced it was stopping development of OMAP solutions and shifting it's focus to embedded processors. In November it then laid off 1700 people in the O…

Considering how tumultuous layoffs and reorganizations are, it wouldn't surprise me if any engineering support Google needed from TI fell on deaf ears. This leaves Google in a very awkward position. Sure that's a reason, but it's not an excuse . Had something like this happened to for instance Microsoft or Apple, they would have footed the bill, engineered a solution, and lived up to what they promised their customer…

I was simply providing you with a technical reason for why support for newer operating systems might have been dropped. I think you're being complete unrealistic with your expectations or that your understanding of what being a Nexus device means. Google has not announced that it is discontinuing support for the Galaxy Nexus, just that it won't receive the latest and greatest OS.

Had something like this happened to for instance Microsoft or Apple, they would have footed the bill, engineered a solution, and lived up to what they promised their customers in the first place.

Are you really citing Apple as a credible reference for an upstanding company?

I'm going to cite 1st Generation iPad which was released in 2010, discontinued in 2011 and received one iOS upgrade as proof you're full of it. On top of, that numerous Apple devices have only had 2 years of software updates (e.g. iPod Touch 4th Gen) before being discontinued.

Furthermore Apple has settle numerous lawsuits and class action suits filed against it for failure to repair devices under warranty, claiming such bizarre things as being a smoker creates a hazardous operating environment in violation of the warranty. They've had numerous lawsuits against them for manufacturing defects on devices that resulted in high numbers of failures outside of warranty periods (e.g. iBook power-on issue).

Microsoft ships a baseline package of drivers but it's up to vendors and device manufacturers to maintain driver support for Microsoft's Operating Systems so that's not even a valid comparison.

That's why you have a profit-margin after all

No, that's not why you have profit-margins. But even if it were, Google is selling the devices at or near cost so there isn't much margin to work with. So using your own logic against you, getting an OS update this summer on a device that's 2 years old that never made a profit is pretty crazy.

That's totally unprofessional and completely uncool.

You're completely unreasonable.