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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Correct me if I'm wrong but a human will be able to cut through the noise with quirky advertising, new/novel distribution methods, etc. Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. These specifically require doing something unique or interesting. Sure, maybe LLMs can help with fulfillment or operations, but distribution still remains the hard part.

>> Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. That may also change with llms - they can help the buyers compare every product available, and find the best.

It depends on what you produce if you make something in demand it may sell itself. For example if you operate oil wells or an ice cream stand. On the other hand if you manufacture bullshit advertising and sales may be key. What I do get about these llm SAS start ups is LLMs instrinsicaly mimic what is in the corpus so if your goal is to compete in an established product pace sure LLMs may be great autopilot but deterministic programs would be even better on the other hand if you are doing something genuinely innovative them you can expect an llm product manager to containmente it with what is already out there or alternatively make unhinged predictions. Llms have poor judgement for what is not already in the corpus.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Go isn't solved.

Go is solved. Hey, look I can make unsupported claims with just as much evidence as you! Maybe you'd like to add some details as to why AlphaGo and its successors haven't "solved" Go (insofar as a game like Go can ever be "solved")?

When people talk about solving a game like go or chess, they mean proving mathematically if there exists a way to guarantee a win, or if the second player can always guarantee a draw, among related questions. Current game engines have no such knowledge, they just pick statistically what the think the best move is and hope for the best.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Their demo stores are literally losing money...

Unsurprising when it can't even keep track of 2 employees.

"No one had been scheduled to open the doors and welcome customers on opening day, and the AI manager had to desperately start emailing around to see if anyone would be willing to show up at short notice."

https://chef.se/artiklar/ai-chefen-glomde-personalen

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Isn't Andon Labs the SF startup that burned a bunch of money having AI run a shop into the ground?

When your tech doesn’t catch on there’s usually a last ditch effort to “open source” it if nobody wants to buy the tech

It’s the tech company death rattle

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go is solved. Hey, look I can make unsupported claims with just as much evidence as you! Maybe you'd like to add some details as to why AlphaGo and its successors haven't "solved" Go (insofar as a game like Go can ever be "solved")?

When people talk about solving a game like go or chess, they mean proving mathematically if there exists a way to guarantee a win, or if the second player can always guarantee a draw, among related questions. Current game engines have no such knowledge, they just pick statistically what the think the best move is and hope for the best.

No, that is not what "people" in general mean, this is only what some people mean.

Other people know there is no solving go with calculating, but using statistics to achieve the goal of becoming better at humans. And they are. (With a recent unexpected exception unlikely to be repeated more often)

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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You're describing most people. Most people (99.9%) can't come up with novel ideas either. They just follow the latest trend. Art, marketing, music, etc. If you've spent any time in the creative spaces, you'll realize most people don't really have much talent. Skill, sure, but that only gets you as far as someone else's latest idea.

Honestly growing up, I always assumed everyone could be creative. Until I started asking people to randomly create a name for a fictional character. Blows my mind how many people won't or can't do it.

I still get anxiety thinking back to picking a gamer tag or email username and not coming up with anything original despite unlimited options.

Its hard to be creative without any constraints.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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> The thing we considered the most troubling was whether AIs could autonomously acquire resources by running businesses. So we decided to build that to validate and confirm our fears.

Yes, let’s not do any experiments at all. Then we’re sure to remain ignorant.

That always works well.

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