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Re: The largest electric aircraft just flew [video]

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Typical reserve requirement is 30 min for a turbine aircraft (45 for piston). Given the 125 mile battery-only range and the probability that it flies at at least 200 kts (230 mph), it’s pretty unlikely to hit even a 30 min reserve on only batteries. I like the design, I think they get the problem and have a decent solution for it

> Typical reserve requirement is 30 min for a turbine aircraft (45 for piston). For private, yes. For airlines, the requirement boils down to basically enough fuel to "fly to the intended destination as scheduled, then loiter for XX minutes, then fly at normal speeds to a pre-designated alternate, land". For short flights, that means the fuel loaded at departure can be more than twice what is actually needed to get f…

    > You can use it for ~125 mile flights, and remain 100% electric on ~95% of flights.
The video says that in the United States about 1 in 1000 flights are diverted from their intended destination airport.

Re: The largest electric aircraft just flew [video]

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> and should not happen on well planned flights You make it sound like it is acceptable for a badly planned flight to have a fuel emergency. It is not. If there is a fuel emergency (or the plane lands with less than 30min of fuel) there will be an incident investigation that treats the situation as serious as if the plane had crashed. If the investigation discovers it was nothing more than bad planning, (at minimum)…

Badly planned flights should not happen. Pilots who don't carefully plan their flights end up dead quickly. Lack of fuel is one of the easier to handle things that can go wrong from bad flight planning.

Can you give an example of a "badly planned flight"? And did local regulators agree with your opinion?

Re: The largest electric aircraft just flew [video]

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Unless they have a whole new airport and flying experience, I don’t think a lot of people are going to fly just 125 miles. That’s less than two hours of driving. It would be 2 hours of just airport shenanigans much less the flight itself.

Not much airport shenanigans in the small island hopping nations and the fjords this is aimed at. 125 miles in 2 hours is assuming flat, straight, high-speed, low-traffic roads. Sure, people might not use these to fly SFO → LAX or back, but they likely will use them to go ABZ → LSI, and the "check-in and security shenanigans" are, errr, quite relaxed, compared to what you might be used to at JFK... There's a ton of s…

300 miles is very viable for a lot of routes. Not 125 though.

Re: The largest electric aircraft just flew [video]

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> but they're very frequent. Yet you state their frequency as some sort of statistical fact. Your anecdotal experience doesn't make it any more or less true.

and you are refuting with even less justification. I told you how to check for yourself if you actually cared about veracity. Best of luck trying to get funding to publish something academic anti-CCP though, but I'd love it if you did. Also this is just a conversation, not an academic debate

> I told you how to check for yourself if you actually cared about veracity.

Which means nothing. You still dont get my point.

> Also this is just a conversation, not an academic debate

It can be both.

Re: The largest electric aircraft just flew [video]

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I understand that energy and instantaneous power draw aren’t the same. I’m working with the numbers given: over a megawatt of power draw, and the price of energy in kilowatt hours. I’m not saying that they are flying on 100kw. I’m saying that using absurdly optimistic - unrealistic, really - pricing they have alln energy budget of 100kwh to use for the entire flight of 27 min. That means that average power consumptio…

> You are saying that they took off with a normal amount of power for a plane that size, then cruised around using an amount of power (45kw) that wouldn’t keep a two person plane 1/20th the weight airborne. No, I’m not saying anything about 45 kW, you’re, again mistaking kW for kWh. > Citing drag from a Tesla is kind of irrelevant because the whole way an airplane works is by creating lift via drag. That’s already in…

You were arguing for the 100kwh derived from $5 a few comments up. Now you are arguing for low hundreds of kWh?

So you are now in agreement that $5/100kwh is unrealistic? That was my whole point the entire time.

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