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Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by 8note »

hgoel wrote: post #279
johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #223

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>their subscription now goes way further than OpenAI or Anthropic. Until it doesn't... Honestly, this entire OpenAI reset credit fiasco this past week has convinced me to rip off the Codex and Claude Code bandaids and start building my own proper Pi Coding Agent running models that I select and pay for on openrouter. And I am feeling a lot better about it now that I've finally got it working.

>Until it doesn't... I don't get the point of this. We all seem to agree that these companies have almost no moat, if one stops being a good deal, you can switch to another. That doesn't invalidate the existence of a deal that is currently good.

switching cost is something you then have to pay everytime the deal changes.

the rest of the comment is about moving from expensive switching costs of what harness you are using to having the difference be closer to changing some config in openrouter

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by UltraSane »

jamesrcole wrote: post #377
UltraSane wrote: post #326

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Musk has had very little to do with the actual Success of Tesla and SpaceX and a LOT to do with the recent failures of Tesla, with his constant lies about FSD and the epic failure of the Cybertruck. Tesla hasn't had a new CAR model since 2020! I'm so tired of people mindlessly assuming past "success" is a guarantee of future success in completely different industries and technology. This just proves how little they a…

You literally don’t know what you’re talking about. If you’d read any biography of him you’d know how utterly wrong your claims are.

You really are a fanboy, huh. How do you handle all the lies Musk told while he was in charge of DOGE and all the damage he did? The richest man in the world destroying the aid organization that helps the absolute poorest for no reason at all is NOT a good look. In fact between Musk destroying USAID, his enthusiastic firing at Twitter and Tesla combined with his near complete lack of charity donations makes him one of the most selfish and sadistic men in the world.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by UltraSane »

ls612 wrote: post #378
UltraSane wrote: post #298

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Not at all

They aren’t building this fab tomorrow. By the time it is ready to start producing chips I expect 14A to be in production

I mean Intel hardly has the manpower to do their own fabs AND the "terafab"

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by HDBaseT »

shishcat wrote: post #135
hmokiguess wrote: post #29

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I believe they are the only western provider that has Kimi K3 on a subscription plan today as well. I would love to ditch Anthropic and be on Kimi if there were a subsidized plan like that with ZDR

I’d love a subsidized Kimi subscription too. The official Kimi subscription is always out of stock and doesn’t have great limits, while the K3 allotments on OpenCode and Cursor don’t seem to last very long either.

You can apply to join the Kimi subscriptions. I clicked join on the $20/m plan and got in the same day.

Apparently 5x usage when using Kimi Code too.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by HDBaseT »

theyliesoeasily wrote: post #376
Rover222 wrote: post #370

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You can find pictures of AOC and Mamdani doing the exact same gesture. It’s obviously a common gesture when emoting to crowds. But you just want to believe the narrative. If you’re worried about Nazis, take a look at all the pro-Hamas people.

I've seen the claimed pictures in context with their videos, they are distinctly different gestures in timing and emphasis - normal waves, without the sharp hand to chest -> locked elbow with hand outstretched motion. Again, the seig heil is a particular gesture with a particular emphasis and timing which Musk imitated precisely, twice in quick succession. Those other photos are decontextualized from gestures which w…

Genuinely why would Elon do a Nazi salute when he's in the Jewish/Israeli class?

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by jamesrcole »

UltraSane wrote: post #382
jamesrcole wrote: post #377

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You literally don’t know what you’re talking about. If you’d read any biography of him you’d know how utterly wrong your claims are.

You really are a fanboy, huh. How do you handle all the lies Musk told while he was in charge of DOGE and all the damage he did? The richest man in the world destroying the aid organization that helps the absolute poorest for no reason at all is NOT a good look. In fact between Musk destroying USAID, his enthusiastic firing at Twitter and Tesla combined with his near complete lack of charity donations makes him one o…

I see you didn’t pay attention to what I did and did not say in my original comment. I’ve read a biography of him and When The Heavens Went On Sale, which covers SpaceX [Edit: I'd remembered the book incorrectly. I have read that book, but it doesn't cover SpaceX. The books that I'd read that cover SpaceX are The Space Barons: Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and The Quest To Colonize The Cosmos, by Christian Davenport, and Liftoff: Elon Musk and the Desperate Early Days That Launched SpaceX, by Eric Berger]. What you’re claiming about him is completely wrong and completely ignorant. I know you haven’t actually read anything substantial about him, because if you had you’d be fully aware of how stupid the claims you are making are.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by Rover222 »

theyliesoeasily wrote: post #376
Rover222 wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can find pictures of AOC and Mamdani doing the exact same gesture. It’s obviously a common gesture when emoting to crowds. But you just want to believe the narrative. If you’re worried about Nazis, take a look at all the pro-Hamas people.

I've seen the claimed pictures in context with their videos, they are distinctly different gestures in timing and emphasis - normal waves, without the sharp hand to chest -> locked elbow with hand outstretched motion. Again, the seig heil is a particular gesture with a particular emphasis and timing which Musk imitated precisely, twice in quick succession. Those other photos are decontextualized from gestures which w…

It is seriously absurd to believe he did it as a Nazi salute. But you just want to believe it.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by darkoob12 »

soVeryTired wrote: post #310
mpalczewski wrote: post #261

I've been using grok 4.5 with grok build soon after it came out and dropped claude. primarily for personal code. It communicates better. While that might not sound like a big deal it is. It doesn't give me a wall of text, tells me what I need to know and I'll make the actual decisions. It is very quick as well which means the sessions are far more interactive, I'll be steering it more. I sometimes cross check with co…

Out of interest, do Musk's politics impact your decision on whether or not to use Grok? I'd be interested to know where folks lie on the (Agree / Disagree) and (Use / Don't use) axes.

It does. I believe he is one of the worst people and contributed to misery of humanity. I had nothing against him until he dismantled USAID. The richest man in the world did not go to a party on weekend to make sure that poorest men on the world have less help. He was basically on the side of HIV. So i never use his products.

Beside don't read too much in to benchmarks. They are alrrady ruined by Goldhart principle. Tgese models have already seen most of the data.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by locknitpicker »

wfvr wrote: post #359
milchek wrote: post #343

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Interesting question. I suppose it comes down to how much you allocate his involvement or presence to a product? I’d imagine Grok is built by hundreds of engineers who are all unique individuals from various backgrounds. If Elon simply “leads” from a very surface level where he has no direct day to day involvement in Grok releases does that make it more palatable? Or is the question really about how involved he is? O…

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> The man did a nazi salute on live TV, not once but twice. And you know he meant it.

He's also publicly and militantly supported quite a few far right political parties throughout Europe, particularly those who have a long track record on race-based topics.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by darkoob12 »

wfvr wrote: post #359
milchek wrote: post #343

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Interesting question. I suppose it comes down to how much you allocate his involvement or presence to a product? I’d imagine Grok is built by hundreds of engineers who are all unique individuals from various backgrounds. If Elon simply “leads” from a very surface level where he has no direct day to day involvement in Grok releases does that make it more palatable? Or is the question really about how involved he is? O…

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