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US Military's cyber command unit grapples with cluster of deaths by suicide

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Post by Sabinus »

throw488426 wrote: post #322
senderista wrote: post #276

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Israel will happily flatten a whole apartment complex to get one guy.

Israel actually has the capability of targeting a single apartment in an apartment building, and has done so dozens of times in the current war against Hezbollah.

Does Israel actually have the capacity to target the whole of Hamas with those small accurate bombs, as they get intelligence on them? If Hamas is in the basement can the small bomb get them? And if they forgo the opportunity will it be possible to target that person again soon without civilians nearby?

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Post by singingtoday »

deadbabe wrote: post #355
CircuitSeuss wrote: post #300

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It’s definitely happening. https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories?f%... Don’t mistake prepositioning for “not happening.” As you said: “cyber cold war” means there are a lot of incentives not to reveal capabilities or trigger escalation from your adversaries. https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa... Although, that is changing as we continue to escalate. https://www.cisa.gov/n…

Where?

Here. There. Over there too.

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Post by hiddencost »

brandonagr2 wrote: post #242
senderista wrote: post #193

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I feel more compassion for the innocent people they killed and it's not even close.

Which part of "attack enemies" implies they were targeting innocent people?

US military standard for "did we kill civilians" with drone attacks is "do these appear to be combat aged males, based on satellite photos".

It's monstrous.

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Post by drekipus »

Sabinus wrote: post #356
crote wrote: post #332

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Collateral murder.

Civilians die in wars, and that's with the best intentions of all parties to the conflict. If one or both has got radicalised, then a lot of civilians die in war.

This is the Israeli take that is continually pushed to normalize their approach to "removing baby terrorists"

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Post by tunesmith »

thin_carapace wrote: post #366
debesyla wrote: post #341

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Wait, it doesn't? Genuine question. Where can I read about this theory more?

rephrased for ease of interpretation - venting about a problem is nice just as stretching a muscle is nice. stretching doesn't fix the root cause of muscle soreness though, just as venting does nothing to fix the issue. emotionally re-reacting is likely to result in strengthening of existing associations, which is more likely to cause repetition of a problem scenario, as opposed to leading to scenario avoidance.

"talking about your mental health" does not mean re-parroting your trauma. there's understanding, re-framing, forgiving, all kind of other things that go beyond the limited belief that talking just calcifies trauma.

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Post by singingtoday »

halJordan wrote: post #149
01100011 wrote: post #60

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> In some cases, they suffer from insomnia, memory loss, rumination and physical illness, So, like most middle-aged desk jockeys then? > “There’s always a crisis and everything’s always a priority,” said Schoka. “We would burn people out faster than we could produce them.” Sounds a lot like my job...

Ah yes- your old job where your boss could put you on twelve hour shiftwork indefinitely while making you pt while denying you adequate housing or food all under the threat of military justice and telling you if you tell anyone anything you're breaking a dozen national security laws.

I have worked places with mandatory overtime and I can confirm after a few months I didn't want to be on earth anymore.

But it wasn't military so I just quit..

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Post by Sabinus »

superkuh wrote: post #210
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #199

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We sure do. They mostly work in federal government and government contracting corporations. There are multiple clearly documented repeated drone strikes on US citizens, even US citizen minors, who never were even indicted with a crime, that ended in assassination. Like the two intentional strikes it took to kill 16 year old US citizen from colorado, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awla... . Se…

Why are you citing these as cases of terrorism and murder when the American citizen wasn't the target? Collateral damage happens in missile strikes.

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Post by isr »

brandonagr2 wrote: post #242
senderista wrote: post #193

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I feel more compassion for the innocent people they killed and it's not even close.

Which part of "attack enemies" implies they were targeting innocent people?

Let's see. They were part of the US military, right? In just this war alone, they started by triple tapping an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, murdering nearly 200 little children.

And on the same day, they attacked a SPORTS STADIUM, completely vapourising a women's volleyball team who were in the midst of a game.

And that was just ... DAY ONE.

By now, we should be asking - if you're a member of the US military on active duty in an active war - prove that YOU DIDN'T kill a child, mother, handicapped person in a wheelchair, or a grandpa.

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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Post by jacquesm »

Teever wrote: post #352
jacquesm wrote: post #342

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I think you meant to write Greenland.

Indeed I did, my brain was a bit foggy when I wrote after a night of partying. Thanks for catching that.

The times are wild enough that I first checked if Trump had been making any moves on Iceland, just in case I had missed something...

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Post by Sabinus »

sitzkrieg wrote: post #344
netsharc wrote: post #250

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Obama's department of defense classified every male between 16-65 hit by drone attacks as enemy combatant until proven otherwise... So the war crimes are bipartisan. And I write this as someone who likes Obama.

obama also drone striked killed us citizens with no due process in the name of the game

Why would they need due process? They weren't the targets and their deaths were accidental collateral damage.
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