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Costco is the anti-Amazon

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Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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> Even if you think it is preferable at an individual level, there are good reasons to question the social value of the logistical complexity that it necessitates. Home delivery of single-packaged items entails an entirely different cost structure than freight trucks driving to consumer-facing warehouses delivering entire pallets of goods to be driven home by customers themselves. Ok, so 100 people can all drive to t…

costco buyers typically buy in bulk and fill a pantry in one go. i doubt one truck can fill 100 pantry. maybe a few products each

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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There’s nothing wrong with your way, it’s just a different lifestyle based on how dense of a community you live in. People living in apartments in dense cities don’t have room for a whole cow in their apartment, but there’s probably a few grocery stores in walking distance, so they pick up food more often. Living in a suburb means that you probably don’t walk by a grocery store on your way home from work, and you pro…

Well, that’s what I’m getting at. There’s no reason I can’t go to the store every day - I pass right by a lot of grocery stores. I don’t want to go in them or even think about buying stuff any more than I have to - it’s tedious. I want to always have almost everything I’d want on-hand. I think the the GP would love this too if it was practical- but it’s not for him. I’d be more interested in hearing the exact reasons…

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Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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Also, in the photo, it shows a huge car park. The stores, have to support large empty spaces for parking of those 100 people all driving to the store. I also wonder about the social value of utilizing the land that way.

It's quite efficient use of land. Costco parking lots tend to be full, people tend to leave Costco with full carts and go once or twice a month. Direct to consumer warehouses should be encouraged not discouraged by the environmental social use advocate kinds of people. It results in fewer miles driven and more being done per mile driven. Each parking space gets more done per parking space. There's less retail worker…

The problem isn’t the efficiency of car use, it’s car dependency. If retail is only available in the huge units it’s impossible to access those without a car. And if people end up owning cars, even against their will, they will end up using those daily.

The goal is to avoid the car-centric lifestyle, not to optimise it. Maybe that is a totally utopian idea in the us, though.

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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> Even if you think it is preferable at an individual level, there are good reasons to question the social value of the logistical complexity that it necessitates. Home delivery of single-packaged items entails an entirely different cost structure than freight trucks driving to consumer-facing warehouses delivering entire pallets of goods to be driven home by customers themselves. Ok, so 100 people can all drive to t…

When the Amazon truck drives down my street it’s always stopping at 5 houses or so. So the marginal cost of my package is practically zero.

That is not a logical way of locking at it. You can’t simply “practically zero” the not-zero marginal cost, on top of acting like there’s not a fixed cost that is literally the reason you rationalize that there is “practically zero” marginal cost.

It’s equivalent to “I should live in your house for free because the marginal cost is practically zero”

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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Have a limited company or be in a baroque list of occupations: https://www.costco.co.uk/membership-goldstar-questions

What on earth is the point of limiting membership to such random and specific groups?

They have an equally baroque list of people who can vouch for you in passport applications:

https://www.gov.uk/countersigning-passport-applications/acce...

Reminiscent of Borges' list: https://thewhippet.org/the-whippet-134-those-that-tremble/

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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Yeah, this argument falls flat on it's face. Of course it's more complex than that. When I worked from the office, centralized retail was very convenient and hardly added any driving. If you work from home, the opposite is true. The next revolution would be to standardize reusable packaging, that same daily delivery truck could bring that back. But only government could make that happen.

The next revolution is zoning reform so it's legal to build shopping people want to do within walking distance of where they live.

It doesn’t solve the packaging problem. I live in a walkable place, and the sheer amount of single use packaging is utterly insane. They’re different problems that both need addressed.

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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250k skus seems pretty arbitrary. What's the significance of this number? A bodega goes a long way for most people's daily needs.

A bodega is often (and usually unavoidably) more expensive than a bigger grocery retail chain that's further away. Price conscious buyers will opt to drive to the bigger, farther away store because it has more variety, and the essentials are cheaper. I know I do this.

Everybody does this, unless its 10pm on Saturday and you are thankfully kissing the hand of bodega owner for being open at such absurd hour

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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As someone who finds ordering groceries obscene what kind of heavy stuff do you get that you need to order in?

Generally the bulk things I would have gotten at Costco, which isn't much for our family, so mostly protein drinks, olive oil, and so on. They come in pretty big cases, and it definitely seems like the heaviest thing the Amazon driver is delivering that day. We still drive to the Chinese grocery for a big bag of rice every once in awhile.

Ok that makes sense to me, so you do this once or twice per year?

I used to buy a lot of olive oil in canisters in Italy when on vacation. Just can’t match the quality with what you get on the open market here.

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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> Home Delivery - in most situations - is effectively a first world luxury. The comments here always blow me away by how totally out of touch with the rest of the world many posters are. No, home delivery is not a luxury, it just works really poorly in your country. India is going through a 15 minute or less delivery boom right now. It's gotten so popular that the government is asking companies to not promise 10 minu…

The comments here always blow me away by how totally out of touch with the rest of the world many posters are. Yes, home delivery is a luxury, and it 'does not work' in India - it's only evidence of an utterly broken system. It's a sign of radical inefficiency and economic failure that labour is being used for those kinds of things because it's extremely unproductive . "It has nothing to do with loopholes on anything…

How is a delivery service unproductive? Division of labor is one of the most fundamental principles in our economic system. You being able to do it yourself in your free time doesn't make it unproductive. You could also make your own clothes, that doesn't make the clothes industry an unproductive endeavor.

Re: Costco is the anti-Amazon

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250k skus seems pretty arbitrary. What's the significance of this number? A bodega goes a long way for most people's daily needs.

A bodega is often (and usually unavoidably) more expensive than a bigger grocery retail chain that's further away. Price conscious buyers will opt to drive to the bigger, farther away store because it has more variety, and the essentials are cheaper. I know I do this.

There's a full supermarket a 10 minute walk from me because it's a dense area.
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