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Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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Isn't any one interested in the technical? I would love to pay this guy a way to figure out a way to put a 8Gb USB stick in the light bulb, and start to fill it with the stuff from that Minecraft library... in all the languages... I would buy 16 of these light bulbs, and see if I could mesh them, or IPFS them, and start plugging them in in libraries...

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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Some that comes to mind: violence, -phobia, fascism, nazism, rape, genocide, supremacy, safety, political, diversity, man/woman. In the context of this thread, it would be calling a book a "banned book" because it is banned in some school libraries, despite being widely available everywhere else. Akin to calling dogs a "banned pet" because they are banned from post offices. Technically correct but highly misleading w…

This has been called book banning for a very long time. Banned Books Week has existed since 1982. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_Books_Week I suspect that the same applies to most of the words that came to your mind; they're just being used in contexts you politically disagree with and therefore it's a "misuse". (Seinfeld's "soup nazi" was a misuse. Putin's use of the same word is a misuse. Descriptions of mode…

> I suspect that the same applies to most of the words that came to your mind; they're just being used in contexts you politically disagree with and therefore it's a "misuse".

Nope. I just care about words and their meaning. If you tell someone that X is a "banned book", the vast majority of people will understand it as meaning that it's a country wide ban (I just verified this with a couple of people to make sure I wasn't crazy).

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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> Perhaps the only weapon is to teach how to think for oneself. Who is going to invest in that in a scale necessary? _Most_ developed countries do invest in the education and teaching of critical thinking. It's not even that expensive. In most countries, if a political party prefers an uneducated voter base, they don't win elections. Or if they do, there are enough working checks and balances (and parties in the oppo…

LoL. Political parties are very good at making elections about manufactured issues. They strategically polarize the voters by amplifying and creating fault lines within the society. If what you say is true in your world, I would be sincerely interested to know where would that be (my guesses would be Uruguay, New Zealand). This is not sarcasm, I am genuinely interested. In my world, India, it is as untrue as it can b…

I grew up and lived mostly in Belgium. Only a year in the US and a few years in South Africa.

Belgium gets a lot of criticism for moving slowing, but it also rarely breaks crucial things. The system of >10 political parties has its flaws, but it's a lot less divisive than a 2 party system. It means compromise needs to be found, and that no 1 party has full control (slows things down but reduces corruption and critical errors imo). Purposely dumbing down the population or firing 10% of government employees in order to hide malicious acts (or make corruption easier) just aren't conceivable in Belgium.

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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> If your implication is that none of the arguments made over 300 years are relevant today No, the point is that for the purposes of this discussion it is irrelevant when the arguments were first made. And reread the original: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48550066 Nowhere does it say that “information wants to be free” was the originator of the idea. It’s merely anchoring it to something recent HN readers hav…

> No, the point is that for the purposes of this discussion it is irrelevant when the arguments were first made. How is that irrelevant if the whole statement is literally about when the arguments were first made and supposedly disproven? > Nowhere does it say that “information wants to be free” was the originator of the idea. It literally says __now__ that we've seen how lies are also information and can travel even…

I’ve now asked you the same simple question twice, with extra emphasis the second time. It’s not a complex question, it’s not a gotcha, it’s not an attack, it’s a clear question to determine the crux of the disagreement and find consensus.

Yet you continue to not answer it, and I can only guess it is deliberate since you clearly read the comment if you quote so much of it.

So I have a new question: What is the point of continuing to engage with you if you refuse to answer the most basic of queries to clarify your point?

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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post #380

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LoL. Political parties are very good at making elections about manufactured issues. They strategically polarize the voters by amplifying and creating fault lines within the society. If what you say is true in your world, I would be sincerely interested to know where would that be (my guesses would be Uruguay, New Zealand). This is not sarcasm, I am genuinely interested. In my world, India, it is as untrue as it can b…

I grew up and lived mostly in Belgium. Only a year in the US and a few years in South Africa. Belgium gets a lot of criticism for moving slowing, but it also rarely breaks crucial things. The system of >10 political parties has its flaws, but it's a lot less divisive than a 2 party system. It means compromise needs to be found, and that no 1 party has full control (slows things down but reduces corruption and critica…

Appreciate your reply.

The only criticism of Belgium that I have heard are the horrors of colonialism under Leopold.

Its a picturesque country.

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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> No, the point is that for the purposes of this discussion it is irrelevant when the arguments were first made. How is that irrelevant if the whole statement is literally about when the arguments were first made and supposedly disproven? > Nowhere does it say that “information wants to be free” was the originator of the idea. It literally says __now__ that we've seen how lies are also information and can travel even…

I’ve now asked you the same simple question twice, with extra emphasis the second time. It’s not a complex question, it’s not a gotcha, it’s not an attack, it’s a clear question to determine the crux of the disagreement and find consensus. Yet you continue to not answer it, and I can only guess it is deliberate since you clearly read the comment if you quote so much of it. So I have a new question: What is the point…

I thought I have clearly explained that I completely disagree with the claim and its entire framing. Not sure what you mean by conclusion that I supposedly agree with.

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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This has been called book banning for a very long time. Banned Books Week has existed since 1982. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_Books_Week I suspect that the same applies to most of the words that came to your mind; they're just being used in contexts you politically disagree with and therefore it's a "misuse". (Seinfeld's "soup nazi" was a misuse. Putin's use of the same word is a misuse. Descriptions of mode…

> I suspect that the same applies to most of the words that came to your mind; they're just being used in contexts you politically disagree with and therefore it's a "misuse". Nope. I just care about words and their meaning. If you tell someone that X is a "banned book", the vast majority of people will understand it as meaning that it's a country wide ban (I just verified this with a couple of people to make sure I…

Language doesn't work that way. Being prescriptivist about it doesn't change that language evolves. The time to have had this fight about "banned books" was 40 odd years ago, and you still would have lost it because your interpretation being limited to a "country-wide ban" is also nonsense in a meaningful sense. If a political figure has made a decision that a book will not be available in the places where it would otherwise normally be available for people for whom that political figure has some level of control -- and that unavailability is for purely political reasons -- it's perfectly sensible to call it a book banning.

There are books and magazines banned in prison libraries. Because it's prison, those books are also considered contraband if a prisoner's family delivers it to them. This is a book banning. One may argue whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's a book banning.

If children would _normally_ have access to age-appropriate books in a school library about same sex marriages (Suzie's Two Dads or Johnny's Two Mommies or whatever) but some retrogressive numbskull politician in Florida decides that teaching kids about same sex marriages is wrong and therefore those books are no longer allowed in school libraries, it's a book banning. If the child brought said book from home because they have two dads or two moms, they'd also probably land in trouble because school administrations are conservative and CYA in nature.

If you actually cared about words and their meaning, you wouldn't try to insist that there's only one correct meaning. Language evolves.

Wikipedia: Book censorship or book banning is the act of some authority (countries, government) taking measures to suppress ideas and information within a book.

More Wikipedia: According to the Marshall University Library, a banned book in the United States is one that has been "removed from a library, classroom, etc."[19] In many situations, parents or concerned parties will ban or propose a ban on a children's book based on the book's contents.[20] The American Library Association publishes a list of the top "Banned and Challenged Books" for any given year.[21] The American Library Association also organizes a "Banned Books Week", which is "an annual event celebrating the freedom to read."[21] The goal of the project is to bring awareness to banned books and promote the freedom to learn.[22]

All that's required for a "ban" to be a ban is an official act to prevent or prohibit someone from doing something. In the case of school book bans, it's to prevent teachers or school librarians from exercising their skills and judgement on introducing books for kids to read. Sometimes this is justifiable, most of the time it is not.

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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just like how you can figure out when tom/dan say " we've banned this account " doesn't mean " banned this account from the internet ", you can use similar context clues to figure out " banned book " doesn't mean " banned across the world and is now illegal ".

I mean, when you're like "I have to make a hidden wifi server in a light bulb to distribute these books" that does kind of imply some dystopian totalitarian state that will put you to death for reading those books or something and not the reality that they are given their own highlighted section in literally every single bookstore in existence.

What led you to make up that this was said? Also, you realize there are other countries in the world where books are banned…right?

Re: Banned book library in a wi-fi smart light bulb

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No, only the illegal copies are banned, not the properly licensed one. It's not that Linux src is banned, but a redistribution with the GPL stripped would be.

What does the L mean in GPL according to you?

license
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