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Your competition, gimp, is free already.
Not to mention Photopea [0] [0]: https://www.photopea.com
The Affinity suite is also free now
Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly this. Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. No one is going to vibe code a Photoshop replacement just like no average smartphone user is going to take prize winning photographs with their phone or directly compete with professional photographs. What is going to happen is what happened to videographers and photographers and what is happening…
> neither will the one off random app that only your household uses This reminds me a bit of the 2010s idea that every house would have a 3D printer to make one off repairs. Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. Vibe coded apps are great, but unless they're hitting an already open API, they're effectively hermetic.…
> Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer.
Considering the 3D printing barrier for entry is buying, setting up, learning, and maintaining a whole new piece of equipment vs going to a website on a phone or computer everyone already has and telling it what you want in plain english, I think the comparison is lacking.
Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's only half the author's point. The other half is that the "gate is where it always was" (= the part that's not just grinding out code to spec), and the fact that you can't vibecode a Photoshop doesn't mean AI is useless.
> and the fact that you can't vibecode a Photoshop doesn't mean AI is useless. A lot of ai hype IS premised on ai being able to vibecode photoshop.
I never heard of it, let alone "a lot". Care to give examples?
Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#384Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#385Vibecoding is for scripting, and scripting != software. Not to be confused with cross-language codebase translations.
Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly this. Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. No one is going to vibe code a Photoshop replacement just like no average smartphone user is going to take prize winning photographs with their phone or directly compete with professional photographs. What is going to happen is what happened to videographers and photographers and what is happening…
> Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. The goal posts are being moved, yet again, as the reality of generative AI's usefulness starts to narrow. I think most "anti-AI" devs wanted the technology to be supplemental in the first place, in the hands of responsible engineers. The hype riders are the ones who are saying our job is over. > reducing the c…
> The evidence is the contrary. The tools are become more expensive by the month it seems.
Maybe, but compare the monthly cost of a ChatGPT subscription to the cost of a face to face CS education, the cost of a dev machine, the cost of spending your time building the software that you want. The subscription easily wins. And yes, yes, overtime the sub is more expensive but the point is that your average layman is not going to front five figure amounts in costs in something like this just like most people don't buy a gym's worth of fitness equipment, they instead go to their local gym and pay monthly. Now think of all the things LLMs cover even if unreliable and low quality and you can see why the fast-food/fast-fashion era of software is upon us. People won't be experiencing the software equivalent of Michelin rate restaurant food or wearing Gucci but they will certainly be having their needs met in a way that they didn't use to before.
Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
And most importantly, you don't care at all if the tool you vibe-coded is any good. If you write at tool that converts an image to black & white, you are the kind of person who doesn't know or care what KIND of black&white it is. The fact that there are many algorithms to choose from would never cross your mind. The same happens with whatever tool you vibe-code. You get the average of the worst quality open source ve…
> And most importantly, you don't care at all if the tool you vibe-coded is any good. If you write at tool that converts an image to black & white, you are the kind of person who doesn't know or care what KIND of black&white it is. The fact that there are many algorithms to choose from would never cross your mind. Why do you believe that? What if I care so much about black and white and need a specific algorithm, isn…
... because there are open source tools that implement these things properly? Take Darktable, if you try to build an alternative because you "just want to do a bit of color grading" you will produce garbage.
My point is that AI bros are forgetting that the LLM is only as good as the person using it. If you don't sufficiently understand the problem you're solving, your solution will be terrible. If you believe that AI will simply take that work away from you and do it itself, you should ask your favorite LLM to explain how LLMs work.
Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
And most importantly, you don't care at all if the tool you vibe-coded is any good. If you write at tool that converts an image to black & white, you are the kind of person who doesn't know or care what KIND of black&white it is. The fact that there are many algorithms to choose from would never cross your mind. The same happens with whatever tool you vibe-code. You get the average of the worst quality open source ve…
Yeah but what happens when you do know the names of the algorithms… Like an experienced digital artist would.
You're saying that, if I go and vibe-code an app to implement a couple of those algorithms, they will be correctly implemented?
Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#389If I’m understanding this correctly, it starts by raising this question, then argues that it’s kind of a cheap and meaningless punch-down. I’m not sure I completely agree.. I think these types of questions are more a response to the level of hype around LLMs and less about knocking people down. You see a lot of people excited about the personal productivity app they vibe-coded (which IMO is totally legit - it’s cool…
> If I’m understanding this correctly
You're not.
> it starts by raising this question, then argues that it’s kind of a cheap and meaningless punch-down.
The cheap and meaningless punch-down in the article is the vibecoding accusation. The question in the title is actually their main line of attack against that accusation, all the way to the end.
>> QED So. Where are the vibecoded Photoshops? WHERE IS THE THREAT YOU MADE UP TO ATTACK ME?
>>I'm waiting.
I find it hilarious that so many people are finding it so difficult to grasp even the general line of argument of the article despite trying earnestly.
Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?
#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And most importantly, you don't care at all if the tool you vibe-coded is any good. If you write at tool that converts an image to black & white, you are the kind of person who doesn't know or care what KIND of black&white it is. The fact that there are many algorithms to choose from would never cross your mind. Why do you believe that? What if I care so much about black and white and need a specific algorithm, isn…
... because there are open source tools that implement these things properly? Take Darktable, if you try to build an alternative because you "just want to do a bit of color grading" you will produce garbage. My point is that AI bros are forgetting that the LLM is only as good as the person using it. If you don't sufficiently understand the problem you're solving, your solution will be terrible. If you believe that AI…
> ... because there are open source tools that implement these things properly? Take Darktable, if you try to build an alternative because you "just want to do a bit of color grading" you will produce garbage.
... only if you don't pay attention. The existence and popularity of Darktable literally means that LLMs have a reference implementation on-hand and probably seen some of it in training too. If for some reason they don't immediately go looking at it, then you can always ask.
> If you don't sufficiently understand the problem you're solving, your solution will be terrible.
Fortunately the LLM is able to help you with first understanding the problem space, too. Just don't expect it today to zero-shot things you don't understand well enough.