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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more. Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.

LLM generation in general provides the most use to scammers and the like. Generate emails which people won't read, generate articles which are just honeypots or rip-offs, generate images to said articles, generate more and more spam. Every legit use case for LLM practically requires that human would verify the result manually, at least briefly. But spammers can enjoy skipping that step, since content was never a main…

It’s been said that “Nigerian prince” email scammers intentionally use poor spelling and grammar in order to narrow their funnel at the top by quickly weeding out observant and wary people who are unlikely to fall for it.

By that token, LM-generated content which looks good at a glance but doesn’t hold up to scrutiny seems ideal for scamming. I’d speculate that in the scam content generation workflow, not only is there little penalty to skipping the verification step, but since you intend to push that step onto the target and hope the result is a false positive, subtly wrong hallucination might be not only tolerable but in fact better for its purpose than what a human could produce.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Most of the sysadmin and devops team have been downsized in India because of AI. Basically, now it's trivial for any new devops guy to run such a query in Claude Code: “Log in to this production server, find out all services it runs and their deployment method, create documentation about everything, and generate a repeatable, auditable deployment workflow.” Devops and sysadmins can no longer withhold information to m…

I can't wait to see what these companies will be willing to pay real humans to clean up the mess they will have made– if they survive.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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You would just get called from an agent (bot) based in your country. There’s no easy way to prevent that. Fraud is massive and it’s becoming cheaper and easier to run at scale.

China has much stricter control over phone #'s and identities than USA/EU does. It's much more difficult for me to create a placeholder digital identity in China. I wouldn't love that solution, but it exists. As a result, it's very difficult for me to use a lot of Chinese websites and it's a pretty sizable barrier to hardware development when Chinese citizens can just download the relevant datasheet off some Chinese…

I swear it's harder for us to access Chinese sites than it is for them to VPN to outside services. There's one event I was looking at going to in China but the announcements/chat was on QQ which as far as I can tell is just impossible to access.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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I'm convinced that one of the top use cases for OpenClaw is orchestrating cold outreach email campaigns, as if there's nothing wrong with using AI to spam people to death. Platforms that enable sending cold emails are taking a sizeable risk that the low engagement of such emails stimulates some worsening inbox deliverability for the rest of their traffic (see [1] - you can't hide just by sending through big tenanted…

Doesn't Amazon let you create many accounts?

Technically, you could create many top level Amazon accounts, but if you want to send lots of mail, you must warm up your account. So accounts can be created, but it’s useless if you need to send high volumes of messages.

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Yes unless you have a very very very good reason it's always best to just file a basic LLC in the state you are a resident of. Only costs a few hundred dollars at most and doesn't really complicate taxes

This is totally false, sorry. Delaware entities are the standard. Delaware corporate law is better understood than any other by a long shot. Dealing with a random non-Delaware LLC is usually a hint that your counterparty is a rube.

I guess you didn't read my comment. I said unless you have a very very good reason one of which could very well be if you plan on immediately raising VC money. Most companies don't do that and will just end up wasting a lot of time by having a foreign LLC and tons of additional tax issues they have to deal with by having a corporation.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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> Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. No kidding. > One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. We're starting strong on the category of businesses that generate no actual value and just scrape an amount of value out of existing transactions that would've happened anyway, i.e., rent-seeking. But good for you, you can now artificially shri…

So if anyone accepts your challenge will you move the goalposts and tell them their business isn’t good enough in your point of view? It doesn’t seem like you’re actually interested in dialogue. You also don’t seem to be aware of the definition of rent seeking but that’s an entirely different topic. I’ll sit out your little experiment because I’m not in the mood for this kind of response. But you may discover that if…

> So if anyone accepts your challenge will you move the goalposts and tell them their business isn’t good enough in your point of view?

It's not a value judgement, it's literally rent-seeking behavior. You're seeking, to rent, property that you own, presumably for a profit. Like come on, it's what the word means.

> You also don’t seem to be aware of the definition of rent seeking but that’s an entirely different topic.

Both my command of the English language and the economist elsewhere in this thread disagree with you, but go off I guess.

> qualified people could teach you things like automated business models that are quite ethical and even the definition of rent seeking.

And yet instead of citing one you went off a tone-policing rant.

My question was quite open-ended. I genuinely didn't expect someone to come in and list the textbook example that an actual economist went on to point out was crap for the exact reason I said, truly. But that's the kind of poetic unawareness that one really can't plan for.

> Have a nice day.

I did, thanks!

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