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If openai / anthropic / google were the only game in town then yea, we’d already be paying 5x as much as we do. But local models are so close to sota that it just isn’t going to happen. If I’m a lawyer getting billed $500k/yr on $600k profit I’d rather buy a chonky server and run a model that’s 90% as good and get my money back in 2 years, then pay $5k electricity on $600k profit. Nobody will successfully lobby for b…
Could you really build something sophisticated with a local model? Let's say a linux kernel.
Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
#382That is a huge red-flag. While I understand that they will do some policing/censoring, this is way beyond what I would consider acceptable. They can have a different price plan for agentic stuff, but these things where they “accidentally” whoops match on specific keywords and trigger extra usage charges is giving a evil-microsoft-vibe
Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
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Frankly if a project asks for no AI and you try to use AI for it, then you kinda deserve this. Calling the inclusion of this sort of thing "smuggling" is placing the blame in the wrong spot
Even if you don't want prs that are ai assisted, sabotaging anyone who wants to fork your project doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of open source.
Building giant monopolies on top of open source code wasn't in the spirit of open source either. Training AI that reproduces open source code without any credits wasn't either.
I'm not sure why people working on Open Source should continue to accept being whipped like that
Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
#384Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
#385I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%
Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
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Anything coming from OpenAI is an automatic "Hell, no!" for me.
I hope you appreciate the irony of saying that in a thread where we are discussing that OpenAI's main competitor is engaging in blatantly anti-consumer behavior.
Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
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Sorry, are you claiming that it's illegal (in the US, where Anthropic operates) for Anthropic to decline to operate on a repo that contains commits relating to OpenClaw? Or just that in your opinion, it should be illegal? Simply doing something anticompetitive is not inherently illegal, despite a lot of people thinking it is.
It doesnt decline if you have API billing enabled, it straight up charges your request to API instead of Quota if setup (see $200 charge example below). This is happening if you have the words HERMES.md or OpenClaw apparently in the commit. In OP's example, it immediately depleted his session quota because of the words. That is not 'declining to operate'. Also, remember, it is the presence of the words. So if the com…
We're discussing the comment with repro by abdullin:
> Immediate disconnect *and session usage went to 100%*
Emphasis mine.
I ran the commands and did not see session usage go to 100%. I simply got an error message.
I don't have extra usage/API billing enabled. If I did, I wouldn't expect a "hi" to use all of my extra usage. In the link you sent, they genuinely used $200 of credits, they were just billed as credits not as subscription quota.
So we have a couple different behaviors:
- If API/extra usage billing is enabled, it uses that.
- If API/extra usage billing is disabled, abdullin reports session quota going to 100%
- If API/extra usage billing is disabled, margalabargala reports session usage not changing and errors refusing to do anything.
Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
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I wonder if projects which are anti-AI could place such identifiers surreptitiously into docs or commits as a way to sabotage people using Claude Code. Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota.
Frankly if a project asks for no AI and you try to use AI for it, then you kinda deserve this. Calling the inclusion of this sort of thing "smuggling" is placing the blame in the wrong spot
Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
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What are you running them on?
Harness: opencode Subscription: opencode go I also use a claw agent[1] via Telegram, which uses pi.dev under the hood with my opencode go subscription. [1] I forked one of those Claw projects (bareclaw) and made many changes to it.