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Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Hetzner normally advertises their hardware servers as 2x 1 TB SSD, because it's strongly recommended to run them in SWraid1 for net 1TB. (Their image installer will default to that) Once the first SSD fails after some years, and your monitoring catches that, you can either migrate to a new box, find another intermediate solution/replica, or let them hotswap it while the other drive takes on. Of course though, going t…

For over a decade I ran a small scale dedicated and virtual hosting business (hundreds of machines) and the sort of setup you describe works very well. Software RAID across 2 devices, redundant power supplies, backups. We never had a significant data loss event that I recall (significant = beyond user accidentally removing files). For quite a while we ran single power supplies because they were pretty high quality, b…

> But, and this is important, we were monitoring the systems for drive failures and replacing them within 24 hours. Ditto for power supplies. If you don't monitor your hardware for failure, redundancy doesn't mean anything.

It does still mean something.

If you have a 5% annual chance of failure and no redundancy, your five year failure chance is 23%.

If you have redundancy and literally never check for five years, your five year failure chance is 5%. That's already a huge improvement. If you do an inventory of broken parts twice a year, still no proper monitoring, it goes down to 0.6%

For 2% the numbers are: 10% 1% 0.1%

For 10% the numbers are: 41% 17% 2.6%

(The approximations for small percents are x*5, x²*25, and x²*2.5)

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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I have just seen with my own eyes Claude astroturfing on a gamedev subreddit from a botting account that was picked up by Google so I could see a few of their other comments. This account's operation was going on development subs complaining about how good Claude's latest model is and how awful it is being afraid of losing one's job to AI. I know your comment is tongue-in-cheek and the poster here is kinda known, but…

I see a lot of these posts on Reddit, too, but I don't think it's actually Anthropic or Claude doing it. It's the same old Reddit karma farmers picking up on the latest trends. They've always combined headlines with ragebait to build karma and now LLM bots make it easier than ever. It's too bad Reddit allows accounts to hide their comment history now. That was an easy way to identify bot accounts before they started…

> the same old Reddit karma farmers

What's the point of these Internet points?

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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post #382

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I see a lot of these posts on Reddit, too, but I don't think it's actually Anthropic or Claude doing it. It's the same old Reddit karma farmers picking up on the latest trends. They've always combined headlines with ragebait to build karma and now LLM bots make it easier than ever. It's too bad Reddit allows accounts to hide their comment history now. That was an easy way to identify bot accounts before they started…

> the same old Reddit karma farmers What's the point of these Internet points?

Numbers go bigger. Plenty of games based in that.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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> Surely you must've noticed that pretty much all of their bare metal offerings ("dedicated" and the stuff on "auction") have multiple disks, allowing for various RAID configurations? I don't know where to start with this comment. Do I really need to spell out the difference between cloud and bare metal ? A few examples... - Live migration ? Cloud only. - Snapshots ? Cloud only. - Want to increase disk space ? Tick b…

You can get snapshots and live migrations working on-prem. The cloud isn't magic, it's just servers with hypervisors and software running on top of them. You can run that same software. Also, with something like Hetzner you would not be going in and physically doing anything. You also just tick a box for a RAM upgrade, and then migrate over or do active/passive switch. The cloud does have advantages, mostly in how "e…

cloud vs bare metal is:

are you a capable engineer or do you believe in magic?

the savings of a cheap engineer disappear on the cloud bill. get a badass well paid engineer who can do both and doesn't talk his way out of this financial madness

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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post #101

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Wow a Claude add embedded into a Hetzner add. How deep does this go?

I have just seen with my own eyes Claude astroturfing on a gamedev subreddit from a botting account that was picked up by Google so I could see a few of their other comments. This account's operation was going on development subs complaining about how good Claude's latest model is and how awful it is being afraid of losing one's job to AI. I know your comment is tongue-in-cheek and the poster here is kinda known, but…

> I have just seen with my own eyes Claude astroturfing on a gamedev subreddit from a botting account that was picked up by Google so I could see a few of their other comments.

Where's the link? I mean, why would anyone take your word for it? No one can tell who you are as well. If there are posts in a subreddit then it would be interesting to see them.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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DO is so expensive compared with others; one of my clients insisted on using it as they found aws too costly; I got them over to Hetzner after a few months saving them 28k/month. I have no clue why people bother with DO vs AWS if they want to spend that kind of cash on hosting. I host million$ SaaS on Bunny.net and Hetzner for less than $200/mo; will never go back to the overcharging companies; and this is trivial to rsync migrate to whatever other provider too.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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I moved two servers, one from Linode and the other from DO to Hetzner a few months ago, with similar savings. The best part was that the two servers had tens of different sites running, implemented in different languages, with obsolete libraries, MySQL and Redis instances. A total mess. Well: Claude Code migrated it all, sometimes rewriting parts when the libraries where no longer available. Today complex migrations…

Not every fscking story has to be about AI.

> Not every fscking story has to be about AI.

It might surprise you to learn that nowadays there are a lot of people using LLM code assistants. Those who do can also use them to help them write blog posts.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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Not every fscking story has to be about AI.

They really can't help themselves showing how they didn't put any effort doing a thing.

> They really can't help themselves showing how they didn't put any effort doing a thing.

I would be proud to show that I managed to take one of the most radical changes we can do to a system, which would otherwise be practically unthinkable, and use a tool to make it trivial ton pull off.

Re: Migrating from DigitalOcean to Hetzner

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I moved two servers, one from Linode and the other from DO to Hetzner a few months ago, with similar savings. The best part was that the two servers had tens of different sites running, implemented in different languages, with obsolete libraries, MySQL and Redis instances. A total mess. Well: Claude Code migrated it all, sometimes rewriting parts when the libraries where no longer available. Today complex migrations…

Linode is going to lose my business in the next couple months as well. Been there over a decade, have referred countless customers to them, but they’ve kept bumping up prices over and over and I can get a dedicated server at Hetzner or other places with 8x the memory, dedicated NVMe disks, dedicated CPU for cheaper. Sure you lose a little of the benefit of a “virtual” server which can be migrated but Hetzner’s suppor…

Linode was bought by Akamai couple years ago.
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