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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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this is true only on HN. in reality, if you wanted a job where you did not use microsoft products you’d probably have to get a wrench and start doing plumbing work :)

Using Microsoft products and desiring Microsoft products are not the same thing.

I for sure misread the post I commented on, you are right, my bad!!

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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I'm spending a literal fortune on CC - we also have GH Copilot but the devs imply that CC is better? Will the Github Copilot let us access skills and agent frameworks in CC?

Devs say a lot of uninformed things. With a heavy predisposition to hating the "legacy" monoliths that are Microsoft and by association GitHub. Yes, Copilot supports skills. Practically all agents support very similar feature sets or are actively building up parity support if not already there. The only real difference between systems is the prompt and payment method. Copilot even allows you to use Anthropic's own sk…

Uninformed devs is what makes this gravy train going. If everybody jumps on gh copilot it will end quick.

Unfortunately it’s self defeating to educate them.

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It's a feature, not a bug. If nobody can pinpoint which instance is crashing, you can't confidently figure out if you need to cancel the $19/mo, the $30/mo, or the $39/mo SKU. Obfuscation as a service.

Quick cry for help, please someone help me cancel a stupid Office 365 subscription on an old credit card where the number changed and no longer have access to the email - their website possibly intentionally sucks considering the hours I’ve spent on this

Surely easier to cancel the card, no?

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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IME is is less capable of performing complex work, more frequently goes down blind alleys and needs correcting, that kind of thing. It's night and day vs CC.

That's probably because the 200k context window means that it'll end up compacting things sooner. I've just had a chat with Copilot's Opus 4.6 go off the rails after compaction today.

Make it write a skill and rule hook for PreCompact to do a handoff that explains what was worked on, what to know, and what to do next. If it goes off the rails after compaction then it won’t be great in a new session either, and you want to make sure you maximize continuity or development will be unsustainable. A backlog.md and improvements.md workflow also helps with this (ticket numbers, descriptions, “focus on BACK-0075,” etc.)

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Too many. Rebranding Office 365 as Copilot 365 or whatever .. seriously?!?

They already screwed up Outlook (having to ask people “do you open the outlook app on your desktop computer, or do you type outlook.com?” And still not getting a helpful answer back from non technical people SUCKS)

Things people know that don’t need to be renamed: Windows Office Azure Xbox Bing GitHub LinkedIn

adding a “Copilot” AI “buddy” to everything is a little confusing as-is, unless the end goal is for it to be a persistent buddy for the user no matter where they are at in the Microsoft ecosystem. But rebranding entire products is crazy

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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There is a limit on how much copilot can do in one request, pretty generous but after some time vscode will say "this request is taking very long, do you want to continue" and that would count as a seperate request

> but after some time vscode will say "this request is taking very long, do you want to continue" and that would count as a seperate request I don't think that's true. In VS Code, that's also configurable via the chat.agent.maxRequests setting. There was absurd latency in the Copilot Opus 4.6 model on 1st and 2nd April which led to lots of my requests timing out with nothing to show though.

> chat.agent.maxRequests

"Maximum number of requests that copilot can make using agents"

I don't get how this setting is relevant?

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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That is no different from having file systems problems across OSes, as old as there are multiple OSes. Even Linux best practices for SMB access have been as read only.

Sorry, but WSL1 was unstable by Microsoft's own admission. That's why Microsoft abandoned it in favor of WSL2 running real Linux in a VM.

Nope, Microsoft redid the design due to the amount of Linux syscalls that were still left to implement.

What is this goal post moving? First the was file system access, then it became being unstable, what is going to be the next point?

Let me make it easier, WSL 1.0 did not support the syscalls for X Windows implementation.

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Windows is still the king for gaming. Word is better than Google Docs for anything but the absolute basics[0]. But as a professional, it has no further use. [0]: Please tell me how I add a new paragraph style in Docs?

I don't think you can add a new paragraph style in Docs. However, 99% of people I've known to use a word processor have never used that feature. Heck, I'd bet the majority of users don't even understand what a 'style' is; people just change the font size directly.

You are right on both counts and that is a bad thing.

World has had ctrl+b for bold forever, so people can start to use it and then upgrade to styles when they run into the limitations. Alternatively someone knowledgable could set Word to only allow a selection of styles.

Open and Libreoffice has had style support since forever. Its only docs that kneecaps its users learning journey like that.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

Naming all your products with X because it uses some fashion of X is certainly a choice. I think Satya has lost the thread, even in a CEO context.

Elon Musk's ears are burning.
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