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Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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Release open weights so competitors can't raise good money, then rear naked choke when they run dry

Using Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) technical terms is confusing. Sports allusions don't travel well between cultures, especially if they sound seedy.

I found it plucky and intriguing. A great metaphor, not often seen in tech. Not everything has to be in the lowest common denominator of language.

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Hi all! I work on the Gemma team, one of many as this one was a bigger effort given it was a mainline release. Happy to answer whatever questions I can

Important bug report for pt-br users: Brazilian portuguese (I am not sure about Portugal portuguese) is being generated all wrong on ollama.

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I tested the E2B and E4B models and they get close but inaccurate (non working) results when generating jq queries from natural language.

This is of importance to me as I work on https://jsonquery.app and would prefer to use a model that works well with browser inference.

gemma-4-26b-a4b-it and gemma-4-31b-it produced accurate results in a few of my tests. But those are 50-60GB in size. Chrome has a developer preview that bundles Gemini Nano (under 2GB) and it used to work really well, but requires a few switches to be manually switched on, and has recently gotten worse in quality when testing for jq generation.

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Daniel, your work is changing the world. More power to you. I setup a pipeline for inference with OCR, full text search, embedding and summarization of land records dating back 1800s. All powered by the GGUF's you generate and llama.cpp. People are so excited that they can now search the records in multiple languages that a 1 minute wait to process the document seems nothing. Thank you!

Hey in really interested in your pipeline techniques. I've got some pdfs I need to get processed but processing them in the cloud with big providers requires redaction. Wondering if a local model or a self hosted one would work just as well.

Python pdftools to convert to images and tesseract to ocr them to text files. Fast free and can run on CPU.

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Hey, I tried to use Unsloth to run Gemma 4 locally but got stuck during the setup on Windows 11. At some point it asked me to create a password, and right after that it threw an error. Here’s a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/sCMmqht This happened after running the PowerShell setup, where it installed several things like NVIDIA components, VS Code, and Python. At the end, PowerShell tell me to open a http://localhost…

Apologies we just fixed it!! If you try again from source ie irm https://unsloth.ai/install.ps1 | iex it should work hopefully. If not - please at us on Discord and we'll help you! The Network error is a bummer - we'll check. And yes we're working on a .exe!!

It worked! https://imgur.com/a/SOfiRhv

Thanks, will check it out tomorrow.

Hope the unsloth-setup.exe > Windows App is coming soon! I think it will expand accessibility and user base.

Re: Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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Hi all! I work on the Gemma team, one of many as this one was a bigger effort given it was a mainline release. Happy to answer whatever questions I can

Do any of you use this as a replacement for Claude Code? For example, you might use it with openclaw. I have a 24 GB integrated RAM Mac Mini M4 I currently run Claude Code on, do you think I can replace it with OpenClaw and one of these models?

Ollama made it trivial for me to use claude code on my 48GB MacMini M4P with any model, including the Qwen3.5…nvfp4 which was so far the best I’ve tried. Once Ollama has a Mac friendly version of Gemma4 I’ll jump right on board (and do educate me if I’m missing something).

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I'm curious about the multimodal capabilities on the E2B and E4B and how fast is it. In ChatGPT right now, you can have a audio and video feed for the AI, and then the AI can respond in real-time. Now I wonder if the E2B or the E4B is capable enough for this and fast enough to be run on an iPhone. Basically replicating that experience, but all the computations (STT, LLM, and TTS) are done locally on the phone. I just…

I just want to say thanks. Finding out about these kind of projects that people are working on is what I come to HN for, and what excites me about software engineering!

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What does that mean for a user of the model? Is the "-it" version more direct with solutions or something?

It means that model was tuned to to act as chat bot. So write a reply on behalf of assistant and stop generating (by inserting special "end of turn" token to signal inference engine to stop generation). Base model (without instruction/chat tuning) just generates text non stop ("autocomplete on steroids") and text is not necessarily even formatted as chat -- most text in training data isn't dialogue, after all.

good old illustrtation: https://www.ml6.eu/en/blog/large-language-models-to-fine-tun...

The it- one is the yellow smiling dot, the pt- is the rightmost monster head.

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Thanks! Just tried it on a 40 page pdf. Seems to work for single images but the large pdf gives me connection timeouts

I also get connection timeouts on larger documents, but it automatically retries and completes. All the pages are processed when I'm done. However, I'm using the Python client SDK for larger documents rather than the basic glmocr command line tool. I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

Yeah looks like the cli also retries as well. I was able to get it working using a higher timeout.

Re: Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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Thinking / reasoning + multimodal + tool calling. We made some quants at https://huggingface.co/collections/unsloth/gemma-4 for folks to run them - they work really well! Guide for those interested: https://unsloth.ai/docs/models/gemma-4 Also note to use temperature = 1.0, top_p = 0.95, top_k = 64 and the EOS is " ". " thought\n" is also used for the thinking trace!

Temperature 1.0 used to be bad for sampling. 0.7 was the better choice, and the difference in results were noticeable. You may want to experiment with this.
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