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Re: Apple Business

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This announcement is pretty sad. If you're wondering why Apple is an IT department nightmare, this announcement is more of a confession. Today your corporate MacBook can have ... preinstalled software! And user groups (for the Apple store and iCloud). Wait, there's more! > In addition, customers can now set up business email, calendar, and directory services with their own domain name for seamless and elevated commun…

Why people bother with all of this to lock the environment into some kind of corporate nightmare? Why not allow some freedom for the worker. I don't see the appeal, it feels like a claustrophobic cage

A lot of it is compliance. To get some types of customers you need to pass some security compliance certification or checks, which often have requirements like only giving access to crucial infrastructure when devices are up-to-date, the possibility to remote-disable/erase a device when it is stolen, some kind of anti-virus installed (yeah, I know), etc.

I can understand the underlying reasons, you would be surprised how many employees have bad security hygiene, which becomes an issue when they have access to high value information, tokens, etc. But since they often somewhat draconian rules, they tend to have bad side-effects (similar to password reminders). E.g. Linux users will often set up ClamAV to fulfill the anti-virus requirement. However, ClamAV parses untrusted data in C code without any sandboxing, so it probably opens a new attack vector (as opposed to Windows Defender, which as far as AFAIR uses sandboxing or a micro-VM to parse untrusted data).

Re: Apple Business

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Incidentally, today I saw this video of Steve giving a speech in 1999, published just a week ago. I hadn't seen it before and wouldn't be commenting weren't it for the video.

You may, and probably will, call me a fanboy or argue that reminiscing the good old times when Apple had 4 products are long gone and we live in a different world now. That is true, we live in a different world and focusing on 4 products wouldn't suffice for Apple to survive.

And now again, you may, and probably will, think that I'm burying my head in sand and ignoring many aspects a business needs to consider in order to survive, just to focus on the ones I like or am nostalgic about.

But there is something very special in this simplicity communicated by Steve in the speech. There is something that makes me want to buy a product when I see clearly what it is I'm buying.

On the other hand, there is something very repulsive when I read phrases like: seamless, streamline, gain valuable insights, build trust, in a product announcement.

Don't get me wrong, I am indifferent about Apple Business, probably won't use it and it won't harm me either. My observation is just a coincidence having heard the speech and having read the announcement here. Link to video: https://youtu.be/EoM2Y2KO6kU?si=0DybhDUiqKsWG_Nz

Re: Apple Business

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I haven’t. Did have issued laptops that were company managed but I basically didn’t use and, in any case, I like many others reinstalled a clean operating system image and did my own support.

At most decent sized companies with a cyber security and network admin team, this is probably the fastest way to get disconnected from the internal corporate network with no way to reconnect.

I always seem to end up with local admin at the bigger places I've been at because I'm so annoying with onboarding and requesting access to download development tools.

Re: Apple Business

#386
> And Apple Business can help millions of companies grow their reach and connect with local customers across Apple Maps, Mail, Wallet, Siri, and more, including a new option coming this summer that will enable businesses in the U.S. and Canada to place local ads in Maps during key search and discovery moments. Apple Business will be available starting Tuesday, April 14, in more than 200 countries and regions

Burying the lede about ADs coming to everything in this announcement. Seems like the contract most people implicitly signed when choosing Apple just broke.

Re: Apple Business

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Millions and millions of normal people have used 8GB M-series Macbooks for the past 5 years, and nobody has those problems you describe. In fact, everybody is happy to have machines which don't have the usual problems that PCs have. Computing tasks related to real world scenarios don't need giant RAM repositories, as evident in that people could do these tasks just fine when 32 megabytes of RAM was enough.

So what you're saying is that the same 8GB of RAM that MacBook Air M1 had 6 years ago is a good idea for a brand new laptop? Like I said, the MacBook Neo is squarely a low-end device. Make excuses all you want, it trades RAM, storage, keyboard backlight, and battery size for a nice chassis and portability.

Yes, it's an excellent idea. For normal people a computer is a tool to get things done, and any 8GB Apple Silicon machine will serve them very well.

Think about it this way: If you loose 5 days of productivity then you have lost $500. A Windows or Linux machine is guaranteed to cause many more days than that of productivity loss per year.

And with "normal people" I mean everybody who is not a developer or hacker, including millions and millions of people who work professionally with computers.

The RAM doesn't matter as much as people here insist. What do I care that my computer has half the RAM, when it completes any and every task blazingly fast and never freezes up or crashes? RAM turns into an abstract.

Look at it this way: You're arguing that a diesel truck is always better than a motorcycle because it has more horsepowers. Okay, but the motorcycle gets me where I want twice as fast and is more comfortable, and doesn't break down all the time. That's what I care about.

Re: Apple Business

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I recently tried setting Apple Business Manager for our ≈20 people SME. The first step was "Domain Lock/Capture" which takes over all Apple accounts for a specific domain. I've never had a worse experience from Apple. The process is buggy, filled with foot-guns and dead ends. It expects huge amounts of work from users who have had their account for more than a few weeks and are expected to remove a lot of their perso…

We use Apple Business Manager. Locking a domain is not a requirement if you're just doing basic MDM, I'm pretty sure. (I also had a negative experience with it, so we didn't use it and everyone just uses their personal apple IDs). Is it no longer possible to skip this step in setting up the account?

In any serious business, you don't want people to use their personal Apple IDs: that could lock their company provided devices for ever when they leave, you also don't want to buy them apps that you won't be able to re-use when they leave, ...

Re: Apple Business

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post #77

I recently tried setting Apple Business Manager for our ≈20 people SME. The first step was "Domain Lock/Capture" which takes over all Apple accounts for a specific domain. I've never had a worse experience from Apple. The process is buggy, filled with foot-guns and dead ends. It expects huge amounts of work from users who have had their account for more than a few weeks and are expected to remove a lot of their perso…

I had a "wonderful" experience as well.

I wanted to evaluate it for MDM purposes so I applied for an ABM account for a company I work for, got soft-approved, created an entirely new Apple ID (as required by the ABM), used it to log on a test device I intended to manage, then sort of forgot about it while awaiting for Apple to conclude their hard-approval for the ABM account creation.

Apple was supposed to contact the business owner to verify company details and finalize the process over the next few days, but they never did.

30 days later they canceled the ABM company account and deleted all the associated users along with the Apple ID which I used to log into a testing device, which now became a fairly expensive paperweight.

I had very little expectations about the experience and I was still disappointed.

Re: Apple Business

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> and the total sum of annual Mac profits is lower than what the iPad ecosystem makes in a year. So the company that makes between 50-60% of all profits in personal computers has created a market where it makes 100% of the profits, but albeit smaller than the whole PC market. That's terrrrible, what was Apple thinking! Market share is far from everything when people live in poverty and do not have money to spend on g…

I shouldn't have to repeat myself; this still doesn't refute the claim that Apple has ceded the consumer compute market. Cheap Macs have flooded the used market for years, and people still gravitate towards plastic Wintel boxes and Chromebooks. > Apple makes stuff for affluent people is just repeating the original claim upthread: >> they've priced the consumer/pro-sumer out of the market prettymuch and so B2B is the…

The fact Apple maximizes for profits, and does not care about market share, does not mean it has ceded the market at all. It’s the exact contrary. Apple’s making money akin to the #2 position while being #4 and that’s an issue for you?

Once again you retreat to anecdata; how can you prove that used Mac laptops are not popular?

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