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So where are all the AI apps?

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Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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Heh, I got a solid five seconds with the chart until the paywall popped up.

> Heh, I got a solid five seconds with the chart until the paywall popped up. Relevant! If the maximalist interpretation of AI capabilities were close to real, and if people tend to point their new super powers at their biggest pain points.. wouldn't it be a big blow for all things advertising / attention economy? "Create a driver or wrapper app that skips all ads on Youtube/Spotify" or "Make a browser plugin that de…

Agreed.

The mind wonders: “we got near-infinite software generation capability, and we are still putting up with Statista paywalls?”

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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At least one of them is sitting on a raspberry pi in my house. Rather than pay a subscription for a workout tracker app or learn and configure a bloated open source one, I built my own in a few hours with Claude with the exact feature set I want. Its been a joy to use.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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Yeah, we traded managing files and registry entries on desktops for something that violates all the principles of the science-of-systems, the kind of thing Perrow warns about in his book Normal Accidents.

I think that's oversimplifying it a bit. Managing files and registry entries wasn't much of a problem, but supporting an ever-growing matrix of versions across multiple platforms that were released into the wild was an issue. Modern evergreen apps kind of fix this, but you're still dealing with other people's computers and environments. Operating a service reliably is of course filled with different problems, but at…

> but you're still dealing with other people's computers and environments.

We have to differentiate a bit between consumer and enterprise environments a bit here. My comment was in regards to the latter, where other people's computers basically were under our full control.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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I deleted vscode and replaced with a hyper personal dashboard that combines information from everywhere. I have a news feed, work tab for managing issues/PRs, markdown editor with folders, calendar, AI powered buttons all over the place (I click a button, it does something interesting with Claude code I can't do programmatically). Why don't I share it? Because it's highly personal, others would find it doesn't fit th…

Well, I’m sharing it. If someone wants an early preview or to work w me on this, the calendly link is on the site: https://safebots.ai But it requires A LOT of work to make sure it is actually safe for people and organizations. And no, an .md file saying “PLEASE DONT PWN ME, KTHX” isn’t it at all. “Alignment” is only part of the equation. If you’re not afraid to dive into rabbitholes, here is how it works: http://com…

https://safebots.ai/architecture.pdf

https://community.safebots.ai/t/the-safebox-stack/31

https://community.safebots.ai/t/safecloud-governance-due-pro...

https://community.safebots.ai/t/safebox-execution-and-commun...

This all reads, to put it politely, like it's being written by someone who is not all there and being convinced by letting AI write everything that they have a coherent idea. Or just trying to put a bunch of buzzwords together to get people to buy something. Do you have any code or actual demos of "your" "work" to share? Your homepage's "See It in Action" section is just more AI slop articles in video form.

https://community.qbix.com/t/how-and-why-safebots-will-repla...

And you've got multiple slopsites filled with what I assume is SEO spam? Which I'm now participating in by linking. Great.

https://qbix.com/ecosystem#TOKEN

And crypto tokens. Of course.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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AI makes the first 90% of writing an app super easy and the last 10% way harder because you have all the subtle issues of a big codebase but none of the familiarity. Most people give up there.

I spent about a week doing an "experiment" greenfield app. I saw 4 types of issues: 0. It runs way too fast and far ahead. You need to slow it down, force planning only and explicitly present a multi-step (i.e. numbered plan) and say "we'll do #1 first, then do the rest in future steps". take-away: This is likely solved with experience and changing how I work - or maybe caring less? The problem is the model can produ…

> you know from experience it's wrong just by looking at it

You do, because you have actual experience programming. Fortnite McBroccolihair III doesn't, so how is he supposed to know what's wrong?

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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I suggest that AI doesn’t currently deliver what is really required of good software for public use. That is understood by more experienced programmers, but not by those with less experience and management.

It should be Useful, Accurate, Consistent, Available and Usable.

Doesn’t AI just largely help quickly deliver Available and (to some degree) Usable?

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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Would you pay $1000 per month for that?

I have never come close to running into any limits using codex with my $20/momth ChatGPT subscription every day

OpenAI is losing massive amounts of money and it needs to pay back hundreds of billions. What do you think will happen to that price 5-10 years from now?

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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post #387

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I have never come close to running into any limits using codex with my $20/momth ChatGPT subscription every day

OpenAI is losing massive amounts of money and it needs to pay back hundreds of billions. What do you think will happen to that price 5-10 years from now?

A) Whatever company I’m working for then will pay for it. Right now we get a $1000 a month budget a piece on Claude. I just hardly ever use it.

B) price of computing always comes down and models will be a commodity

C) If I am an independent consultant by then, I’ll just pay for local inference (I work full time for a consulting company now). You can already get a decent local inference Mac for $500/month.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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> It is incredibly easy now to get an idea to the prototype stage Yup. And for most purposes, that's enough . An app does not have to be productized and shipped to general audience to be useful. In fact, if your goal is to solve some specific problem for yourself, your friends/family, community or your team, then the "last step" you mention - the one that "takes majority of time and effort" - is entirely unnecessary,…

In enterprise software there is an eternal discussion of "buy vs build" and most organizations go through a cycle of: -- we had a terrible time building something so now we're only going to buy things -- we had a terrible time buying something so now we're only going to build things -- repeat... Either way you can have a brilliant success and either way you fail abjectly, usually you succeed at most but not all of th…

You miss a big part of that cycle, incentives, meeting KPIs and OKRs, and who gets to gain from specific decisions being made.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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Well back in the 1990s Apple was on the ropes. Classic MacOS was designed to support handling events from the keyboard, mouse and floppy in 1984 and adding events from the internet broke it. It was fun using a Mac and being able to get all your work done without touching a command line, but for a while it crashed, crashed and crashed when you tried to browse the web until that fateful version where they added locks t…

If it wasn't for NeXT and Valve we would still be in the dark ages. Linux sucked for gaming until Valve poured all that money into Wine. I started with Windows 98. Didn't experience OSX until 2010. 9 years wasted.

It still sucks for gaming, those are Windows games running on Proton, not much different from running arcade games with MAME, Amiga games with WinUAE,...
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