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US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Plurality, not majority. (Not that I’m excusing the dumb dumbs who decided not voting was a viable course of action when they decided that “both sides” were running bad candidates).

With Trump getting a little bit less than half the vote and a 65% turnout, "did not vote" was the plurality.

Not voting is a choice and the same as voting for the winner

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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I'm always gobsmacked when Trump says things like, "We need to get rid of all the wind turbines! They are killing all the birds! Look at the foot of any tower and you'll see nothing but dead birds!" Is there a single person who things Trump gives a single damn about the birds? It is obviously just a pretext.

Never thought about it, but that's a great point and comparison. From quick Google search: 365 million and 988 million birds die every year from window collisions (that's US alone). Windmills/turbines: 140,000 and 679,000. Then if you do per windmill vs. per building obviously the windmills are going to "win," but it's the absolute that would seem to matter in this case. As you said, that has nothing to do with the a…

Domestic cats kill on the order of 100x as many birds as windmills do.

Fossil fuels also kill millions of animals every year (not just birds), and harm the health of humans. Even ignoring the long-term effects of CO2, fine particulates cause respiratory problems, higher blood pressure, and can cause cancer. The tricky bit is you can draw a straight line from the burning of coal to any particular (heh heh) death, it is just a statistical shift in health outcomes.

Anyway, all of that absolutely dwarf the birds getting killed by wind farms.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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no, it used to be single generation but now people as far back as 4-5 are getting citizenship — I'm helping others go through the process myself but it's taking months longer than it used to due to the influx

How does that work so many generations back? Doesn't Bill C-3 add the additional requirement to demonstrate your parent(s) must have lived in Canada for ~3 years in order to make that path available?

That new law is only required for people applying after the law went into effect (so, babies at this point).

I have a feeling there may be more changes coming due to the rush of applicants, but they are incredibly unlikely to revoke anyone who successfully applies before that happens.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Never thought about it, but that's a great point and comparison. From quick Google search: 365 million and 988 million birds die every year from window collisions (that's US alone). Windmills/turbines: 140,000 and 679,000. Then if you do per windmill vs. per building obviously the windmills are going to "win," but it's the absolute that would seem to matter in this case. As you said, that has nothing to do with the a…

Domestic cats kill on the order of 100x as many birds as windmills do. Fossil fuels also kill millions of animals every year (not just birds), and harm the health of humans. Even ignoring the long-term effects of CO2, fine particulates cause respiratory problems, higher blood pressure, and can cause cancer. The tricky bit is you can draw a straight line from the burning of coal to any particular (heh heh) death, it i…

Yeah, I'm your parent and I think I wrote that reply without reading it over because I was attempting to point out, with numbers, how absurd it is that anyone would say "windmills are bad because of how many birds they kill" as if that's a logical argument vs. the countless other things that kill birds en masse.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Never thought about it, but that's a great point and comparison. From quick Google search: 365 million and 988 million birds die every year from window collisions (that's US alone). Windmills/turbines: 140,000 and 679,000. Then if you do per windmill vs. per building obviously the windmills are going to "win," but it's the absolute that would seem to matter in this case. As you said, that has nothing to do with the a…

Per-windmill bird fatalities are much, much lower for new windmills. They made some cosmetic changes that scare the birds off. Also, it turns out that bird flight patterns are very stable from year to year, so they study flight patterns, and place the windmills out of the way.

Yeah, see the reply I left with your sibling. I am in full agreement with you and wrote my comment way too quickly because I was trying to rebut the argument that windmills are in any way responsible for some crazy number of bird deaths.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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I know this US government is fully-committed to fossil fuels and about as rabidly anti-renewables as can be, but I'm still shocked to see things like this. And I'm fully aware of Trump's Scotland experience and how that contributed or directly led to this, but, still, shocked. And then I'm also shocked because I know that at least half, if not a good bit more, of US citizens are in agreement with this strategy. Not s…

People voted in repeatedly a visibly primitive person (plus quite a few other things but lets not go there now), then they get primitive behavior. An honest question - what the heck did you expect? Some sophisticated rational discussions instead of dumb ego tantrums?

Since you wrote "honest question" I feel like I should answer... I expected what's happening and I expect even worse in the future. And goes to show you (I!) can still be shocked even when you're expecting some pretty rough stuff.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Serious question, but not entirely related to the topic - how are “smart” people in the US preparing for the next 20-30 years? - Assume everything will be fine and America will remain a global economic superpower. - Plan an exit to a more serious, stable country. - Some option in the middle of the two to hedge your bets?

Please list the more serious and stable country if America collapses. I’ll wait. On a serious note; I’m looking at my billion dollar neighbors and they all just are citizens everywhere now. No allegiance to anything but their own pleasure.

> Please list the more serious and stable country if America collapses.

New Zealand is really nice. So is Australia with free electricity.

Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Finland are all great. Iceland I want to live in.

Good friends live the simple life in Costa Rica and love it.

Canada has a much better quality of life, but it’s probably a bit close if the US melts.

There are a lot of options

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Offshore wind farms have been stopped by the Finnish and Swedish military in many parts of the Baltic sea which aren't the gulf of Finland. If wind farms are a problem for radars in the US, then it's quite a small price to pay to block them offshore. Especially since the country is gigantic and has plenty of room inland. Any attack on the US will be through sea or space. Both are voids and very difficult or impossibl…

> Baltic sea Still don’t see a problem making this comparing? Atlantic ocean: thousands of miles to the nearest land from the NE coast; unrestricted commercial activity Baltic sea: Belligerent nation on the coast (Kaliningrad Oblast) ~100 miles away; heavily patrolled and monitored commercial activity > If wind farms are a problem for radars in the US I’m asserting they are not because they magically weren’t 2 years…

If the radars that the USA uses are so great, then why don't Finland and Sweden purchase these systems instead of blocking almost all offshore wind farms? These are two countries that have very strong political agendas in favour of wind power.

Maybe there are new threats that neither you or I are aware of or understand? Secrecy is how the military operates. New and emerging threats is the exact reason which has been given by the US Department of Interior.

As for drones, at least in Finland they are investigating if land based wind power mills can be equipped with drone warning systems.

I don't buy into the hacker double think, where everything is great and glorious and rational when Europeans do it, but it's the opposite if America under Trump does it.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Your comment is extremely reductionist and reverses causality for a large number of voters. Both political parties have multi-decade track records of aggressively supporting pro-corporate political agendas at the expense of their constituency. So in light of literal decades of watching prospects decline regardless of which party is currently in power many voters (correctly) conclude that their vote will not lead to m…

> So in light of literal decades of watching prospects decline regardless of which party is currently in power Quick question: how many _months_ total in the last quarter century have the Dems had the Presidency, Senate, and House at the same time. The answer is 47. Forty seven total months. Out of 300. We got the ACA (Obamacare) and the Inflation Reduction Act during those brief time periods, too.

The ACA was poorly camouflaged pork for the insurance industry and healthcare statistics have continued to decline since it was passed. Who did the IRA pay off?
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