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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by hedora »

commandlinefan wrote: post #343
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

> avoid giving money You're paying for any of these?

Most of those services are paid by terrible people when you use them.

Look at their revenue breakdowns.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by boringg »

darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

This doesn't make a lot of sense:

"They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies are in the US, and I feel they would happily move there if needed."

So in an effort to veer from the US based on idealogical positions you wouldn't support your own countrymen because you think in some future state that said copmany might hypothetically move to the US?

Canadians unable to support Canadians is what everyone around the world should read from this comment. Tall Poppy Syndrome in its purest.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by QuarterReptile »

thejohnconway wrote: post #356
QuarterReptile wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Diego Garcia stuff is a very, very big deal. I think it's unreasonable to draw the comparison between the exceptionally short-sighted Brits and the uncommonly prudent Danes. But hypothesizing Trump Tower Thule as the motive is ridiculous.

I don't understand your comment.

Diego Garcia is an island of exceptional strategic importance to the West. When it eventually gets granted to a client state of China, that will steadily degrade the effectiveness of bases there. I expect slower movement than the time the UK promised to protect the rights of Hong Kong citizens, but that is a matter of degree.

I am not aware of Denmark giving meaningful control of Greenland to China or Russia, nor or any plans to push the US out: therefore, while I think the principle is worth considering, I find it to be a small concern not worth angering allies over.

Does that answer your statement of confusion?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by pelzatessa »

crosa wrote: post #348
pelzatessa wrote: post #337

> I’ve always been a happy Mullvad customer. For 5 euros a month, I pay a Swedish company that has proven it doesn’t log any data How did they prove that? Is such proof even possible?

Start by the fact that in their system you are just a random number that is generated at the moment you arrive in their website. They make very easy to pay without having to use any of your personal data, like Credit Card. Overall I think if a company put so much effort on that side, they simply don't have any data to log, or if they do is pretty anonymous anyway :)

While their account privacy policy is commendable, it isn't a proof for not collecting logs.

Even without personal details you can collect quite a lot of data - ip address that uses certain VPN account, which servers it talks to while using vpn, at what hours, at what intervals, also all the plaintext data exchanged between client and server. A lot of data that someone (who might already have your ip address mapped to your personal info, for example your ISP, or an online store where you shopped something before you turned on the VPN) would be willing to pay good money for. And companies like money.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by AdamN »

inferniac wrote: post #287
reg_dunlop wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phrasing this as virtue signaling is a misnomer. I see it as an effort to divest themselves of moral inequity. And the result isn't the point: the effort and the reason for the effort, is. This is the first iteration/calibration of a more conscientious intention. When moral imperative is an unidentifiable road feature on the highway towards wherever the US is going...small efforts matter

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If you believe in the moral of it then it's not signaling in the first place. It's only virtue signaling if you do it just to get acceptance or mating or something like that (e.g. I love barbecue but this girl I'm trying to date is vegetarian so I pretend I don't like barbecue to signal that I'm a good match for her).

The usage of the term 'virtue signaling' is almost always a sign that the person saying it isn't being intellectually honest - it's usually just meant to be a putdown.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by solstice »

akvadrako wrote: post #245
dinowars wrote: post #88

> First, I tried mailbox.org, which I can generally recommend without reservation. Unfortunately, you can’t send emails from any address on your own domain without a workaround I use mailbox for a long time, one account for 2.50EUR/month with multiple custom domains and I can send emails from any address. To send from a different address the process didn't really seem different than other providers. From Thunderbird…

I use mailbox for the past few years and I think it's the best option out there. But they have one major issue, which is that anyone can impersonate your domain: https://userforum-en.mailbox.org/topic/anti-spoofing-for-cus...

Oof, what a drag

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by gib444 »

Not a fan of Mailbox.org. It's Nextcloud for starters. The UX is clunky. They feel a 30 day web app session expiry is perfectly fine.

I've gone back to FastMail for the time being

I think what I really want is:

- FastMail or similar for sending, and receiving new emails

- An email archive system that syncs from my main email provider, deleting from the remote anything over eg 4 weeks old

I like hosted providers for their IP reputation, spam systems, deliverability etc (and in the case of FM, the excellent web UI) but I don't like them having 15 years of my email which they can read whenever they wish. (edit: yes, I realise they could just keep copies)

Does anyone else have this kind of set up? Any recommendations to remove the pain of having a mailbox split into 2?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by joe_mamba »

boringg wrote: post #383
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

This doesn't make a lot of sense: "They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies are in the US, and I feel they would happily move there if needed." So in an effort to veer from the US based on idealogical positions you wouldn't support your own countrymen because you think in some future state that said copmany might hypoth…

Isn't it compounded with issue that something like 75% of UW grads move to the US for work?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by Deeds67 »

darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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