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Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by Dig1t »

greedo wrote: post #347
Dig1t wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ones who get citizenship and their children. Just look at the data for how people vote by demographic group (race). Nonwhite groups overwhelmingly vote blue, H1B's are overwhelmingly nonwhite. This is not controversial. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patte... https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/aoodm8/how_the_...

You didn't answer the question at all. Getting an H1B visa is merely the first step in a very long process towards citizenship. Decades long. For example, if you're from India and you get an H1B, it'll be roughly a decade before you can get a green card. From then you have a mandatory 5 year waiting period before naturalization. And this assumes a normal, functioning immigration process; something we definitely don't…

>Politicians aren't known for playing the long game

There are plenty of politicians who have played the long game, also political parties take actions on longer time scales than individual politicians. Stances that politicians take on issues often come down from the party anyway. Many politicians don't care about many issues, but they vote based on their party's stance. The blue party is staffed with all types of people, many of whom will live to reap the benefits of changed demographics.

Heck many politicians are still in office 18 years later! Look at Nancy Pelosi, she was in office for 38 years. That's multiple batches of anchor babies.

It's not that long of an investment. We have seen this entire country go from 99% white in most places to below 50% in most places, in ONE generation and that change is clearly visible in national elections.

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by greedo »

Dig1t wrote: post #381
greedo wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't answer the question at all. Getting an H1B visa is merely the first step in a very long process towards citizenship. Decades long. For example, if you're from India and you get an H1B, it'll be roughly a decade before you can get a green card. From then you have a mandatory 5 year waiting period before naturalization. And this assumes a normal, functioning immigration process; something we definitely don't…

>Politicians aren't known for playing the long game There are plenty of politicians who have played the long game, also political parties take actions on longer time scales than individual politicians. Stances that politicians take on issues often come down from the party anyway. Many politicians don't care about many issues, but they vote based on their party's stance. The blue party is staffed with all types of peo…

Ah the Great Replacement Theory rears its head on HN. I think Godwin would be proud...

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by sporkland »

nitwit005 wrote: post #177
holmesworcester wrote: post #45

It's wild that there are as many jobs in the category "Top Executives" as in the category "Retail Sales Worker". This makes sense given both automation and the US's role in the global economy, but it runs somewhat contrary to standard ideas of class and inequality.

I took one glance at the chart and decided the results were impossible because of that. Apparently "top executive" median pay is $105,350 per year: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/management/top-executives.htm

Don't a lot of CEO's famously pay themselves $1 and make their wealth on equity appreciation / capital gains?

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by Dig1t »

greedo wrote: post #382
Dig1t wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Politicians aren't known for playing the long game There are plenty of politicians who have played the long game, also political parties take actions on longer time scales than individual politicians. Stances that politicians take on issues often come down from the party anyway. Many politicians don't care about many issues, but they vote based on their party's stance. The blue party is staffed with all types of peo…

Ah the Great Replacement Theory rears its head on HN. I think Godwin would be proud...

I mean just look at the data, it's a story that tells itself. One party does indeed benefit from increasing diversity and they are also the party that coincidentally spends a lot of time working on initiatives to increase diversity.

It seems that you are using the term "Great Replacement" as a tactic to dismiss the argument and all the data by which it is supported because you have no real counter argument.

I also did say that the other side benefits from importing cheap labor. Which is why both parties seem to do very little to slow immigration no matter which is in power, despite overwhelming demand from their constituents to slow immigration.

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Post by guywithahat »

shagie wrote: post #304
guywithahat wrote: post #295

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There's an X account which just posts universities hiring H1B's for ~half of what it would normally cost to hire people. An 80k/yr senior software developer will always be in demand, especially if the team is already predominantly non-american

Universities typically are in the public sector side of the equation... and the public sector doesn't pay any non-administrative role the Big Tech rate. Pulling up my alma mater... https://www.openthebooks.com/wisconsin-state-employees/?Year... The various roles that you'll find for software developers: Sr Is Specialist, Is Tech Srv Cons/Adm, Sr Inform Proc Conslt, Sr Systems Programmer And you can pull up the pay sc…

But there's no reason they couldn't just pay them more. The way to make them pay more is to force them to hire applicants at market rate, and when that's impossible, they'll go to the state legislature. Allowing for the H1B loophole is the problem universities are too eager to abuse

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by vvoyer »

morley wrote: post #62
vvoyer wrote: post #23

I wish there would be a color blind friendly version of this. I have deuteranopia and can’t distinguish red from green in the page.

Out of curiosity, what colors (or text treatments) do you personally prefer to confer "gain" and "loss"?

You're not gonna believe it but NONE colors, my brain doesn't process colors because I know I cannot trust them to be correct. So I use shapes, numbers, arrows.

Ask a colorblind person to explain how to win at candy crush and you'll be surprised (hint: we do not use colors, we use the shapes).

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by Breza »

skybrian wrote: post #149
visarga wrote: post #10

If AI produces surplus where does it go? Not talking about investment backed datacenter buildout and AI labs. Talking about the results of AI work... I think AI outcomes distribute to contexts where it is used, and produce a change in how we work, what work we take on. Competition takes care of taking those surpluses and investing them in new structure, which becomes load bearing and we can't do without it anymore. I…

For my personal projects, any time saved on programming gets used up writing more ambitious programs. For a business, the question is whether you can make more money by doing more ambitious things.

For a business, the second question is what your competition is going to do. If you have a monopoly over something, you can reap the rewards. But if you're in a space with lots of competition, you might not end up with any better profit margins if everyone's in a Red Queen's Race.
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