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how many times in the history of computer programming has there been an end to computer programming as we know it, successfully, and how many times predicted? I can think of one successfully, off hand, although you could probably convince me there was more than one. the principle phrase being "as we know it", since that implies a large scale change to how it works but it continues afterwards, altered.
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To read it in a kinder way, I can focus on a complex logic problem, a flow, an architecture or micro optimisation. I can have an llm setup the test harnesses. I improved test speed which was fun, I had an llm write a nice analysis front end to the test timing which would have taken time but just wasn’t interesting or hard. Ask yourself if there are tasks you have to do which you would rather just have done? You’d ins…
> Ask yourself if there are tasks you have to do which you would rather just have done? Yeah. My laundry, my dishes, my cooking... You know. Chores. Not my software, I actually enjoy building that
Do you find there are zero chores in software development and everything is an identical delight?
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You can enjoy doing woodworking without power tools but that's irrelevant to a job where people want it done fast with power tools.
Woodworking analogy for AI is not "power tools vs handsaw", its "power tools vs. wood 3D printer". You don't do any of the creating, you only ideate and allow the machine to do all the creating. It's simply not wood working anymore. Its something else entirely
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> Ask yourself if there are tasks you have to do which you would rather just have done? Yeah. My laundry, my dishes, my cooking... You know. Chores. Not my software, I actually enjoy building that
You can enjoy doing woodworking without power tools but that's irrelevant to a job where people want it done fast with power tools.
Carpenter told her he'd be happy to, it would take 8 weeks longer, cost more, and probably wouldn't look any better than the regular way
> in coding, L.L.M.s take away the drudgery and leave the human, soulful parts to you. I've always hated solving puzzles with my deterministic toolbox, learning along the way and producing something of value at the end. Glad that's finally over so I can focus on the soulful art of micromanaging chatbots with markdown instead.
amidst this whole AI craze it's illuminating to learn how many programmers secretly hated programming all along
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Just the fact that even retail quality hardware is still improving at local LLM significantly is still a great sign. If AI quality remained the same, and the cost for local hardware dropped to $1000, it would still be the greatest thing since the internet IMO. So even if the worst happens and all progress stops, I'm still very happy with what we got.
>I'm still very happy with what we got "One person's slop is another person's treasure" I'm not all that impressed with "AI". I often "race" the AI by giving it a task to do, and then I start coding my own solution in parallel. I often beat the AI, or deliver a better result. Artificial Intelligence is like artificial flavoring. It's cheap and tastes passable to most people, but real flavors are far better in every w…
But I'm pretty glad trader joes exists too.
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Perhaps it would help if I include the quote, so from Vibe Coding pages 165-166: > [IDEs index] your code base with sophisticated proprietary analysis and then serve that index to any tool that needs it, typically via LSP, the Language Services Protocol. The indexing capabilities of IDEs will remain important in the vibe coding world as (human) IDE usage declines. Those indexes will help AIs find their way around you…
Would you recommend that book?
I'm not normally a fan of the NYT but this wasn't too bad. It passed the Gel-Mann test, and is clearly written by someone who knows the field well, even though the selection of quotes skews to towards outliers -- I think Yeggie for instance is pretty far out of the mainstream in his views on LLMs, whether ahead or sideways. As a result a lot of the responses here are either quibbles or cope disguised as personal anec…
For me, the biggest shift is people who don't care about local AI. The idea that you can no longer code without paying a tax to one of the billion $ backed company isn't sitting well.
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I was thinking about that recently. Maybe decades from now people will look at things like the Linux kernel or Doom and be shocked that mere humans were able to program large codebases by hand.
Hmm, can you think of anything that we could do decades ago but cannot do it now, today?