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Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#381
There should be a "flag as AI" link in addition to "flag" and then a setting for people to show flagged as AI. Once the flagged as AI reaches a certain threshold then it disappears unless you enable "Show AI".

Maybe once enough posts have been flagged like that then that corpus could be used to train an AI to automatically detect content generated by AI.

That would be cool.

Maybe the HN site wouldn't add this feature but if someone wrote a client then maybe it could be added there.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#382
post #67

Good. This helps establish it in the HN culture. That’s the purpose of guidelines. 99% of rule enforcement, both IRL and online, comes down to individuals accepting the culture. Rules aren’t really for adversaries, they are for ordinary situations. Adversaries are dealt with differently.

This is only meaningful if enough people read it and agree

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#383
post #286

What a welcome post. The whole reason I come here is to get thoughtful input from smart people, and not what I could get myself from an LLM. While we are at it; Think your own thoughts as well :) I know how easy it is to "let it come up with a first draft" and not spend the real effort of thinking for yourself on questions, but you'll find it's a road to perdition if you let yourself slip into the habit. Thanks to al…

Quite! It's very easy to send a HN link to one of our new artificial friends to see what they have to say about it. Subsequently publicly posting the inference variation you receive strikes me as very self-centered. Passing it off as your own words - which the majority seem to - is doubly bizarre.

It's very funny to imagine people prompting: "Write a compelling comment, for me, to pass off as my thoughts, for this HN news thread, which will attract both upvotes and engagement.".

In good faith, per the guidelines: What losers!

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#384
post #15

I believe the issue of proving who is and who isn't really human on the Internet will be a really important issue in the coming years, especially without sacrificing people's right to privacy and anonymity in the process.

Maybe it will push people to seek out more in-person interactions, which would be a good thing.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#386
The rule has been around for years, but only in case law, i.e. moderation comments (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). What's new is that we promoted it to the guidelines.

Fortunately I found some things we could cut as well, so https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html actually got shorter.

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Edit: here are the bits I cut:

Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures.

It's implicit in submitting something that you think it's important.

I hate cutting any of pg's original language, which to me is classic, but as an editor he himself is relentless, and all of those bits—while still rules—no longer reflect risks to the site. I don't think we have to worry about cute animal pictures taking over HN.

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Edit 2: ok you guys, I hear you - I've cut a couple of the cuts and will put the text back when I get home later.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#387

Can we also add “Don’t complain about AI-generated content. It does not promote interesting discussion.”? I see this all the time, and even if I find the topic interesting, I don’t want to see comments littered with discussion about how the content was AI generated. To be clear, I'm not condoning AI-generated content. I’m completely fine if the community chooses to not upvote AI-generated content, or flagging it off…

From my experience, it usually happens when people are too brazen about it, with boring stuff like "Interesting! Now here's what Gemini said about the above..". IMHO that is an entirely adequate reaction.
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