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Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by MisterTea »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #172
skeuomorphism wrote: post #95

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This is more or less the go-to standard in the usa. One property manager handles possibly hundreds in an association, or dozens of townhomes, and will refuse to speak to you directly, except through a maintenance request system. Its incredibly depressing

The electrical panel beeps an alarm constantly. Sent an email to the property management company. Guy comes over and presses a button to silence it for 24 hours. Rinse repeat for months on end. No method of escalation beyond the automatic replying inbox. I’m fine. twitch twitch Welcome to 21st century distopia!

I have not heard of a beeping panel box before. The only thing I can imagine are some newfangle AFCI or GFCI breakers that are either nuisance tripping, tripping from actual faults or plain defective.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by toofy »

reading through the comments,

how would a company respond if you had a bot do your job interview in your place? or do your rent applications?

they wouldn’t accept it.

growing up, my first job as a teenager at a restaurant that had ridiculous uniforms, i lasted about two months. i realized it irritated me that the owner would hang out at the restaurant in street clothes but expected us to look like little dancing monkeys. i quit and never worked another job where the owner asked us to do things they would never lower themselves to do.

i understand on the surface jt sounds petty, but it has proven to be a fairly strong indicator of how employees are treated.

if the people in power look at those who make them money as less than, if those in power expect others to jump through hoops they wouldn’t do themselves, it’s time to seriously reevaluate the situation.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by WarmWash »

datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #353
WarmWash wrote: post #131

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The problem with erasing biases is that you cannot look at any statistics. The internet and training set can be free of any form of -ism, and the models would still be expected to have biases. In fact it's something desirable, because statistical inferences are a valuable tool. The AI won't care if some people get upset because it consistently recommends you get Mexican food instead of Italian when you're visiting so…

> The problem with erasing biases is that you cannot look at any statistics. The internet and training set can be free of any form of -ism, and the models would still be expected to have biases. In fact it's something desirable, because statistical inferences are a valuable tool. I’m sorry but I can’t let you get away with this terrible argument and conclusion. No one argues for completely erasing bias (especially th…

>The weak link is humans not recognizing that that doesn't mean there cannot be good Italian food in south Texas. A logical hurdle I don't see AI having any problem with.

Like your argument mentions, the problem is with human brains, not AI. AI is already plainly miles ahead of most humans in understanding nuance.

What will be inescapable though, is trying to be an Italian restaurant that can compete for customers in a south Texas environment will just intrinsically be much more difficult than being a Mexican place. Even the most honest morally pure AI will tell people "When in south texas, you gotta have their mexican food"

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by javier123454321 »

NickNaraghi wrote: post #378

The next step is for interviewees to send their own AI avatars. Then it’s fair and probably more efficient. This to me reveals the power in the underlying pattern in OpenClaw. Seems like User+Agent will be everywhere.

After that, AI companies where there's no human hiring AI agents. After that AI consumers to keep the economy going for AI companies. After that AI governments, after that...

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by hattmall »

datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #353
WarmWash wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with erasing biases is that you cannot look at any statistics. The internet and training set can be free of any form of -ism, and the models would still be expected to have biases. In fact it's something desirable, because statistical inferences are a valuable tool. The AI won't care if some people get upset because it consistently recommends you get Mexican food instead of Italian when you're visiting so…

> The problem with erasing biases is that you cannot look at any statistics. The internet and training set can be free of any form of -ism, and the models would still be expected to have biases. In fact it's something desirable, because statistical inferences are a valuable tool. I’m sorry but I can’t let you get away with this terrible argument and conclusion. No one argues for completely erasing bias (especially th…

Ok, but what if you're a non-emotional system, whose biases are generated from objective statistical data? Then you become aware of those biases, and "adjust our opinions and behavior". You are just introducing inefficiency, and it speaks to the OPs point of: > The problem with erasing biases is that you cannot look at any statistics.

If you can't use the statistics to generate biases then what is the purpose of building an inefficient processor. Not only is it inefficient because of ignoring the statistical data, it's inefficiency is compounded by the fact that you have to go out of your way to add extra layers in order to mitigate the observable statistical inference.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by carlosjobim »

1718627440 wrote: post #373
carlosjobim wrote: post #340

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What you had for breakfast is not personal information, and of course nowhere near illegal. The worst employees are those who start out with an attitude that the employer is their enemy like this.

Requiring to disclose your breakfast habits for a job application has not anything to do with your merit to the company, and gives grounds to the possibility of choosing people on sympathy to their answers to that question. It became frowned to include a picture into a CV, because this feeds implicit biases, why should that be any different with alimentary behaviour? Honestly for dealing with job application spam, th…

Just the fact that you're ready to go all-in arguing about a detail of small talk and start talking about legality and such, is employability poison. And that's something interviewers are looking for. I agree that it's a weird question, but one that the person being interviewed can easily just pass without it being a big deal.

The other poster said it's just a question to easily filter out applicants who aren't paying attention, and it seems as good a method as any. Say "just a cup of coffee" and move on. If the interviewer continues to talk about breakfast or other irrelevant stuff, then I'd just end the conversation. But they can have one for free.

But on the subject, I have no idea how companies manage to screw up their hiring process this much. I used to sometimes interview and hire people and found it to be the easiest thing ever, and I never had the need to do these weird games or more than a phone interview to find great employees. How hard is it to just focus on the exact task of the job and find a candidate who understands it and has a good attitude?

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by cindyllm »

carlosjobim wrote: post #386
1718627440 wrote: post #373

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Requiring to disclose your breakfast habits for a job application has not anything to do with your merit to the company, and gives grounds to the possibility of choosing people on sympathy to their answers to that question. It became frowned to include a picture into a CV, because this feeds implicit biases, why should that be any different with alimentary behaviour? Honestly for dealing with job application spam, th…

Just the fact that you're ready to go all-in arguing about a detail of small talk and start talking about legality and such, is employability poison. And that's something interviewers are looking for. I agree that it's a weird question, but one that the person being interviewed can easily just pass without it being a big deal. The other poster said it's just a question to easily filter out applicants who aren't payin…

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Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by wartywhoa23 »

egeozcan wrote: post #367
nikitau wrote: post #251

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Great stuff. Would make Kafka blush.

There should be a unit of dystopia called Kafka, these days. Renting an apartment from a management company should be like 3-4 Kafkas. Go from there.

1 Orwell = 1.1 Zamyatin = 1.3 Huxley = 1.7 Kafka = 2.3 Lem (yes, these units are pretty close together).

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Post by emulatedmedia »

toofy wrote: post #382

reading through the comments, how would a company respond if you had a bot do your job interview in your place? or do your rent applications? they wouldn’t accept it. growing up, my first job as a teenager at a restaurant that had ridiculous uniforms, i lasted about two months. i realized it irritated me that the owner would hang out at the restaurant in street clothes but expected us to look like little dancing monk…

I mean, we are already using AI to do our job, so I don't see any problem here.

HR can use AI to do interviews and developers can use AI to write 90% of the code. Sounds fair

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