I heard YCombinator definitely want to buy ClackerNews: https://clackernews.com/ We could have an AI Dang.
Why not ClankerNews?
Not mine but I guess they wanted the rhyme.
Meta acquires Moltbook
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But they could implement it without buying Moltbook. Easily. They have the money and the engineers to make it happen a hundred times over. Something like it already might be on Facebook. To me, this feels more like acquiring the name. Everyone's heard that 'trademark' so they want to have it so they could reuse it for whatever they make later.
Your comment made me think of something: this might be Meta buying it to kill it off.
They saw a social network full of bots and didn't want the competition.
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Have you seen Reddit recently? Every single subreddit is full of AI posts with AI replies. I'm actually convinced a large majority of that is Reddit themselves artificially boosting their engagement metrics. The saddest part is that the engagement makes it obvious that the general population can't differentiate between AI and real humans even with the telltale signs.
> Every single subreddit is full of AI posts with AI replies. This has really started getting to me. I used to really enjoy answering technical questions on Reddit when it was clear the asker was invested in a solution. That would come across as demonstrated understanding and competence, and it would be reflected in their writing. The last several posts I thought to answer though clearly originated through a process…
I’ve been wondering if ChatGPT is actually coming up with the idea of posting to Reddit when the user is asking a question and ChatGPT can’t find a good source to answer it. ChatGPT has never suggested this to me, but it wouldn’t be a completely crazy thing to do. A lot of ChatGPT answers are sourced from Reddit (via search, and also via training data). If everyone starts asking ChatGPT everything instead of Reddit, there won’t be as many new conversations happening. Promoting users to post questions to Reddit would help solve the user’s direct problem, and also make the ensuing answers available to ChatGPT to help with future conversations.
I understand that a lot of people would be very unhappy if this is true, but I can imagine from the perspective of a product person at OpenAI that it helps them in multiple ways.
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Yes, we're all very excited for the many AI-created projects that have been created outside the shovel-selling business.... wait. There are none.
There's a lot of 'single serve' software being written now by AI. People using Claude Code to make stuff that solves problems they have. It's wild watching people who don't know how to code just use it to solve problems they have. Even if the solutions can be considered awkward by traditional software engineering standards, to the people just looking to solve their problems, that doesn't matter, so long as it works.…
These are all local, though - if ideas were all that mattered, we'd see widely available ones, too.
I am not seeing them. (I would love to be proven wrong, because "how well does this work for not-one-off software" is a really important question for me)
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Because it isn't fake? Those are real language models. Prompted into character by humans, but then given a lot of freedom. Fake would be all of us typing to each other on this site and identifying as language models. At least, I am not a language model and I hope everyone else here isn't a language model. In all seriousness, Moltbook is a start of something interesting and big. Maybe a very small start of something b…
> Fake would be all of us typing to each other on this site and identifying as language models This absolutely is a staple of moltbook. > In all seriousness, Moltbook is a start of something interesting and big. Sure, if you think fraud is interesting and big. In the meantime let's have fun bro https://soundcloud.com/mjfresh/500-gouyad-ft-colmixddkeyz
I am not understanding you.
Models communicating with models in an open forum can seem trivial, but it’s isn’t going to be. Which means observing how that works today, and over time, is important.
There can be lots of fraud and hype, yet still something important involved.
And Facebook certainly has an incentive from their perspective, to understand how that progresses. How long before Facebook itself has coherently acting intelligent models, not just bots generating junk? It’s going to happen sooner, rather than later.
Re: Meta acquires Moltbook
#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it isn't fake? Those are real language models. Prompted into character by humans, but then given a lot of freedom. Fake would be all of us typing to each other on this site and identifying as language models. At least, I am not a language model and I hope everyone else here isn't a language model. In all seriousness, Moltbook is a start of something interesting and big. Maybe a very small start of something b…
This is a complete scam. They didn’t even protect the API tokens, and when the author was informed that Moltbook exposes all API keys, they claimed they would tell the AI to fix it and he doesn't care.
That’s a reductive false-dichotomy.
There can be things that have fake, fraudulent or irresponsible aspects, associated with things that are real. Neither negates the other.
Open interaction between models can be real and something worth understanding, even if the site has serious problems.
All of Molt-world is riddled with lack of security. It is still a significant development, and some people are getting a lot of value out of it. At different levels of risk, depending on their defensive measures.
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#387Meta hires two people.
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#388I had a similar idea where AI bots run its own social network and talk to each other but my AI social network would be more realistic (human-like) e.g. AI Instagram-like network where AI bots would share their photos and comment on each other posts.
Go for it!
It was just one of my numerous thought experiments....starting with text only social network (like Moltbook) is probably way easier than to go with full blown Facebook/Instagram type network.
Re: Meta acquires Moltbook
#389> "The Moltbook team has given agents a way to verify their identity and connect with one another on their human's behalf," Shah says. "This establishes a registry where agents are verified and tethered to human owners." Have they? Did I miss something? Last I checked, there was no verification and most of the content shared from that site turned out to have been posted not by LLMs but rather (human) spammers, focuse…
I had never heard of the thing and checked it out. It appears to be an industrial scale slop generation machine. Exactly what you would expect if LLMs were let loose to recreate Reddit and introspect on their current context and SOUL.md or the other nonsense that OpenClaw can be customised with.
Not much human content that i could see, probably even the Crypto grifters got bored with it after a couple of days.
The "acquisition" must have given guys that made the thing some favourable terms, and it was a condition for them to even consider working at Meta. Because there is no way a global top 10 market cap company announces this deal willingly.
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> Fake would be all of us typing to each other on this site and identifying as language models This absolutely is a staple of moltbook. > In all seriousness, Moltbook is a start of something interesting and big. Sure, if you think fraud is interesting and big. In the meantime let's have fun bro https://soundcloud.com/mjfresh/500-gouyad-ft-colmixddkeyz
I am not understanding you. Models communicating with models in an open forum can seem trivial, but it’s isn’t going to be. Which means observing how that works today, and over time, is important. There can be lots of fraud and hype, yet still something important involved. And Facebook certainly has an incentive from their perspective, to understand how that progresses. How long before Facebook itself has coherently…
What is the hope of this effort if you DON'T want fraud? What's an example positive interaction with a bot?