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Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#382

"AI Company with Soul" - yeah right until competitors show up / revenue drops / bad quarter results then anything goes. Sadly, this is another large enterprise that puts profits before ethics and everyone's wellbeing

This is direct pressure from the government. Classic 'small government' Republican stuff.

https://apnews.com/article/anthropic-hegseth-ai-pentagon-mil...

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#383

I was wondering if it was because of heavy-handedness of the administration, but apparently: > The policy change is separate and unrelated to Anthropic’s discussions with the Pentagon, according to a source familiar with the matter. Their core argument is that if we have guardrails that others don't, they would be left behind in controlling the technology, and they are the "responsible ones." I honestly can't compreh…

> Every frontier tech company is convinced that the tech they are working towards is as humanity-useful as a cure for cancer, and yet as dangerous as nuclear weapons

They're not really, it's always been a form of PR to both hype their research and make sure it's locked away to be monetized.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#384

I was wondering if it was because of heavy-handedness of the administration, but apparently: > The policy change is separate and unrelated to Anthropic’s discussions with the Pentagon, according to a source familiar with the matter. Their core argument is that if we have guardrails that others don't, they would be left behind in controlling the technology, and they are the "responsible ones." I honestly can't compreh…

“A source familiar with the matter” is almost certainly a company spokesperson.

If they were unrelated, Anthropic wouldn’t be doing this this week because obviously everyone will conflate the two.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#385

Public benefit corporations in the AI space have become a farce at this point. They're just regular corporations wearing a different hat, driven by the same money dynamics as any other corp. They have no ability to balance their stated "mission" with their drive for profit. When being "evil" is profitable and not-evil is not, guess which road they'll take...

Well, now I'm wondering, if the company was chartered with the public benefit in mind, could you not sue if they don't follow through with working in the public interest? If regular corporations are sued for not acting in the interests of shareholders, that would suggest that one could file a suit for this sort of corporate behavior. I'm not even a lawyer (I don't even play one on TV) and public benefit corporations…

I think public benefit corporations (like Anthropic) are quite poorly defined so I'm not sure how successful a lawsuit is.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's "entertaining" is more the speed at which it's happening. It took Google probably 15 years to fully evil-ize. Anthropic ... two? There is no "ethical capitalism" big tech company possible, esp once VC is involved, and especially with the current geopolitical circumstances.

Apparently they got coerced by the current US admin. The department of war in particular, who want to use their products for military applications. Not much room for "safety" there. Then again, the entire US is currently speedrunning an evil build.

> department of war

Department of Defense is the official name, and they did have a choice: they could have stopped working with the military. But they chose money and evil.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#388

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I’m not a lawyer, but my understanding is that HIPAA wouldn’t apply to consumer use of Claude or ChatGPT in most cases, even if you’re giving it your health data. Look up what a HIPAA covered entity. This is another reason why the US needs a comprehensive data protection law beyond HIPAA.

You’re right! It looks like more of an FTC/CCPA issue.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#389

Public benefit corporations in the AI space have become a farce at this point. They're just regular corporations wearing a different hat, driven by the same money dynamics as any other corp. They have no ability to balance their stated "mission" with their drive for profit. When being "evil" is profitable and not-evil is not, guess which road they'll take...

I feel like we went through this exact situation in the 2010s of social media companies. I don’t get why people defend these companies or ever believe they have any sense of altruism

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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I was wondering if it was because of heavy-handedness of the administration, but apparently: > The policy change is separate and unrelated to Anthropic’s discussions with the Pentagon, according to a source familiar with the matter. Their core argument is that if we have guardrails that others don't, they would be left behind in controlling the technology, and they are the "responsible ones." I honestly can't compreh…

Well before Anthropic thought they were God's gift to AI; the chosen ones protecting humanity. With the latest competing models they are now realizing they are an "also" provider. Sobering up fast with ice bucket of 5.3-codex, Copilot, and OpenCode dumped on their head.

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