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Post by verdverm »

simonw wrote: post #341
verdverm wrote: post #334

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I took the "running 24/7” to imply less AI writes code once and more to imply AI is available all the time for ad hoc requests. I tried to adjust back to the median with my third question. I find the idea of programming from my phone unappealing, do you ever put work down? Or do you have to be always on now, being a thought leader / influencer?

I do most of my programming from my phone now. I love it. I get to spend more time out in the world and not chained to my laptop. I can work in the garden with the chickens, or take the dog on a walk, or use public transport time productively while going to fun places. It's actually the writing of content for my blog that chains me to the laptop, because I won't let AI write for me. I do get a lot of drafts and the o…

Going from ten finger typing to thumb only or voice has never panned out for me. Any tips?

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Post by deepsquirrelnet »

nradov wrote: post #371
deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #277

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The DoDs recent beef with Anthropic over their right to restrict how Claude can be used is revealing. > Though Anthropic has maintained that it does not and will not allow its AI systems to be directly used in lethal autonomous weapons or for domestic surveillance Autonomous AI weapons is one of the things the DoD appears to be pursuing. So bring back the Skynet people, because that’s where we apparently are. 1. http…

The DoD was pursuing autonomous AI weapons decades ago, and succeeded as of 1979 with the Mk 60 Captor Mine. https://www.vp4association.com/aircraft-information-2/32-2/m... The worries over Skynet and other sci-fi apocalypse scenarios are so silly.

Self awareness is silly, but the capacity for a powerful minority to oppress a sizeable population without recruiting human soldiers might not be that far off.

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Post by Barbing »

alexjplant wrote: post #281
mattlondon wrote: post #31

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I think for me it is an agent that runs on some schedule, checks some sort of inbox (or not) and does things based on that. Optionally it has all of your credentials for email, PayPal, whatever so that it can do things on your behalf. Basically cron-for-agents. Before we had to go prompt an agent to do something right now but this allows them to be async, with more of a YOLO-outlook on permissions to use your creds,…

I'd like to deploy it to trawl various communities that I frequent for interesting information and synthesize it for me... basically automate the goofing off that I do by reading about music gear. This way I stay apprised of the broader market and get the lowdown on new stuff without wading through pages of chaff. Financial market and tech news are also good candidates. Of course this would be in a read-only fashion…

Could save a lot of time.

Over the long run, I imagine it summarizing lots of spam/slop in a way that obscures its spamminess[1]. Though what do I think, that I’ll still see red flags in text a few years from now if I stick to source material?

[1] Spent ten minutes on Nitter last week and the replies to OpenClaw threads consisted mostly of short, two sentence, lowercase summary reply tweets prepended with banal observations (‘whoa, …’). If you post that sliced bread was invented they’d fawn “it used to be you had to cut the bread yourself, but this? Game chan…”

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Post by testdelacc1 »

chasd00 wrote: post #354
deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #277

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The DoDs recent beef with Anthropic over their right to restrict how Claude can be used is revealing. > Though Anthropic has maintained that it does not and will not allow its AI systems to be directly used in lethal autonomous weapons or for domestic surveillance Autonomous AI weapons is one of the things the DoD appears to be pursuing. So bring back the Skynet people, because that’s where we apparently are. 1. http…

hasn't Ukraine already proved out autonomous weapons on the battlefield? There was a NYT podcast a couple years ago where the interviewed higher up in the Ukraine military and they said it's already in place with fpv drones, loitering, target identification, attack, the whole 9 yards. You don't need an LLM to do autonomous weapons, a modern Tomahawk cruise missile is pretty autonomous. The only change to a modern tom…

A drone told to target a tank needs to identify the shape it’s looking at within milliseconds. That’s not happening with an LLM, certainly.

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Post by georgemcbay »

deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #277
claytonaalves wrote: post #219

I'm impressed with how we moved from "AI is dangerous", "Skynet", "don't give AI internet access or we are doomed", "don't let AI escape" to "Hey AI, here is internet, do whatever you want".

The DoDs recent beef with Anthropic over their right to restrict how Claude can be used is revealing. > Though Anthropic has maintained that it does not and will not allow its AI systems to be directly used in lethal autonomous weapons or for domestic surveillance Autonomous AI weapons is one of the things the DoD appears to be pursuing. So bring back the Skynet people, because that’s where we apparently are. 1. http…

> Autonomous AI weapons is one of the things the DoD appears to be pursuing. So bring back the Skynet people, because that’s where we apparently are.

This situation legitimately worries me, but it isn't even really the SkyNet scenario that I am worried about.

To self-quote a reply to another thread I made recently (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47083145#47083641):

When AI dooms humanity it probably won't be because of the sort of malignant misalignment people worry about, but rather just some silly logic blunder combined with the system being directly in control of something it shouldn't have been given control over.

I think we have less to worry about from a future SkyNet-like AGI system than we do just a modern or near future LLM with all of its limitations making a very bad oopsie with significant real-world consequences because it was allowed to control a system capable of real-world damage.

I would have probably worried about this situation less in times past when I believed there were adults making these decisions and the "Secretary of War" of the US wasn't someone known primarily as an ego-driven TV host with a drinking problem.

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Post by yoyohello13 »

I’ve been building my own “OpenClaw” like thing with go-mcp and cloudflare tunnel/email relay. I can send an email to Claude and it will email me back status updates/results. Not as easy to setup as OpenClaw obviously but alt least I know exactly what code is running and what capabilities I’m giving to the LLM.

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Post by Barbing »

btouellette wrote: post #331
simonw wrote: post #310

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I don't have a Claw running right now and I wish I did. I want to start archiving the livestream from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfGL7A2YgUY - YouTube only provide access to the last 12 hours. If I had a Claw on a 24/7 machine somewhere I could message it and say "permanent archive this stream" and it would figure it out and do it.

Not a great use case for Claw really. I'm sure ChatGPT can one shot a Python script to do this with yt-dlp and give you instructions on how to set it up as a service

ChatGPT can do it w/o draining your bank account etc. I’d agree…

But for speed only, I think it’s “your idea but worse” when the steps include something AND instructions on how to do something else. The Signal/Telegram bot will handle it E2E (maybe using a ton more tokens than a webchat but fast). If I’m not mistaken.

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Post by alansaber »

robofanatic wrote: post #300
bronco21016 wrote: post #239

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clawbase.ai already is "don't be silly, we've got this for you". Not a promotion, just tried a couple of the domains to see if any were available.

most .ai domains are taken. How I regret not buying watermelon.ai for $85, next day I see it was gone :-(

Which shocks me, I always percieved .ai as a meme domain ending, but startups seem to think it's cool.

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Post by edgarvaldes »

beAbU wrote: post #326
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #276

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I think this is absolute madness. I disabled most of Windows' scheduled tasks because I don't want automation messing up my system, and now I'm supposed to let LLM agents go wild on my data? That's just insane. Insanity. Edit: I mean, it's hard to believe that people who consider themselves as being tech savvy (as I assume most HN users do, I mean it's "Hacker" news) are fine with that sort of thing. What is a person…

I find it's the same kind of "tech savvy" person who puts an amazon echo in every room.

Tech enthusiast vs tech savvy
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