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Post by buremba »

rgbrenner wrote: post #241
maxaw wrote: post #229

While following OpenClaw, I noticed an unexpected resentment in myself. After some introspection, I realized it’s tied to seeing a project achieve huge success while ignoring security norms many of us struggled to learn the hard way. On one level, it’s selfish discomfort at the feeling of being left behind (“I still can’t bring myself to vibe code. I have to at least skim every diff. Meanwhile this guy is joining Ope…

But the security risk wasnt taken by OpenClaw. Releasing vulnerable software that users run on their own machines isn't going to compromise OpenClaw itself. It can still deliver value for it's users while also requiring those same users to handle the insecurity of the software themselves (by either ignoring it or setting up sandboxes, etc to reduce the risk, and then maybe that reduced risk is weighed against the nov…

Exactly! I was digging into Openclaw codebase for the last 2 weeks and the core ideas are very inspiring.

The main work he has done to enable personal agent is his army of CLIs, like 40 of them.

The harness he used, pi-mono is also a great choice because of its extensibility. I was working on a similar project (1) for the last few months with Claude Code and it’s not really the best fit for personal agent and it’s pretty heavy.

Since I was planning to release my project as a Cloud offering, I worked mainly on sandboxing it, which turned out to be the right choice given OpenClaw is opensource and I can plug its runtime to replace Claude Code.

I decided to release it as opensource because at this point software is free.

1: https://github.com/lobu-ai/lobu

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Aurornis wrote: post #349
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

> This buy out for something vibe coded I think all of these comments about acquisitions or buy outs aren’t reading the blog post carefully: The post isn’t saying OpenClaw was acquired. It’s saying that Pete is joining OpenAI. There are two sentences at the top that sum it up: > I’m joining OpenAI to work on bringing agents to everyone. OpenClaw will move to a foundation and stay open and independent. OpenClaw was no…

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Post by ryanmcgarvey »

Aurornis wrote: post #357
EastSmith wrote: post #6

With OpenClaw we are seeing how the app layer becomes as important as the model layer. You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw.

> You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw. It’s only been a couple months. I guarantee people will be switching apps as others become the new hot thing. We saw the same claims when Cursor was popular. Same claims when Claude Code was the current topic. Users are changing their app layer all the time and trying new things.

Memory. I have built up so many scripts and crons and integrated little programs and memories with open claw it would be difficult to migrate to some other system.

System of record and all.

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Post by blackoil »

tummler wrote: post #379
Aurornis wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This buy out for something vibe coded I think all of these comments about acquisitions or buy outs aren’t reading the blog post carefully: The post isn’t saying OpenClaw was acquired. It’s saying that Pete is joining OpenAI. There are two sentences at the top that sum it up: > I’m joining OpenAI to work on bringing agents to everyone. OpenClaw will move to a foundation and stay open and independent. OpenClaw was no…

I don't mean to be cynical, but I read this move as: OpenAI scared, no way to make money with similar product, so acqui-hire the creator to keep him busy. I'd love to be wrong, but the blog post sounds like all the standard promises were made, and that's usually how these things go.

It isn't an acqui-hire just a simple hiring. Also unless creator is some mythical 100x developer, there will be enough developers

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Post by nilkn »

TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

This comment is filled with speculation which I think is mostly unfounded and unnecessarily negative in its orientation.

Let's take the safety point. Yes, OpenClaw is infamously not exactly safe. Your interpretation is that, by hiring Peter, OpenAI must no longer care about safety. Another interpretation, though, is that offered by Peter himself, in this blog post: "My next mission is to build an agent that even my mum can use. That’ll need a much broader change, a lot more thought on how to do it safely, and access to the very latest models and research." To conclude from this that OpenAI has abandoned its entire safety posture seems, at the very least, premature and not robustly founded in clear fact.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by johnwheeler »

illichosky wrote: post #180
johnwheeler wrote: post #162

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I just dislike Sam Altman, and I think he's just using this as a marketing ploy, which is more dishonesty from him. People keep saying OpenClaw is hype. I installed it, but I never tried to run it, and I don't know what the compelling reason is to. Supposedly you can talk to your agent from your iMessage? Who cares? Why not just talk to Claude Code?

I also not a Sam's fan for the same reason. But if he offered me a big check to work whatever project I wanted, I would not care about it being a "marketing ploy". Regarding openclaw's hype, it is not about how you access it, but rather what the agents can access from you, and no one did that before. Probably because no one had the balls to put in the wild such unsecure piece of software

Agreed

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Post by Sateeshm »

Gigachad wrote: post #126
linkregister wrote: post #43

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Reminds me of Facebook, there was nothing particularly interesting about a PHP app that stored photos and text in a flat user environment. Yet somehow the network effects worked out well and the website was the preeminent social network for almost a decade.

Social media is the king of network effects. Almost nothing else compares. See how quickly people drop AI products for the next one that does the same thing but slightly better. To switch from ChatGPT to Gemini I don't have to convince all of my friends and family to do the same.

> Social media is the king of network effects. Almost nothing else compares.

Ecommerce is close second

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by blackoil »

ryanmcgarvey wrote: post #384
Aurornis wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw. It’s only been a couple months. I guarantee people will be switching apps as others become the new hot thing. We saw the same claims when Cursor was popular. Same claims when Claude Code was the current topic. Users are changing their app layer all the time and trying new things.

Memory. I have built up so many scripts and crons and integrated little programs and memories with open claw it would be difficult to migrate to some other system. System of record and all.

Considering you have built them all in last few weeks, it should not be that difficult and no reason other systems won't reuse same.
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