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Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by thaumasiotes »

bombcar wrote: post #280
Someone1234 wrote: post #214

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It does make me wonder if Apple's own employees actually dog-food iOS day-to-day. It just seems like, you could stop any iPhone user in the street and ask them "How do you find the keyboard?" And get a consistently negative response, but yet nobody within Apple seemingly has noticed for YEARS. Everyone says iOS 26 did it, but I strongly disagree, I disabled most options in General -> Keyboard like three major iOS ver…

It's so bad that I have to assume that Cupertino is filled with people who "hold the phone differently" and tap with their long fingernails or the very tip of their fingers or something. I'm always mistyping and I don't know how to fix it to do what they want.

> It's so bad that I have to assume that Cupertino is filled with people who "hold the phone differently" and tap with their long fingernails or the very tip of their fingers or something.

Fingernails won't trigger a touchscreen. They do matter, though - as your fingernails get longer, you're forced to tap the phone with the side of your fingertip (so the nail doesn't block you) instead of the front.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by jccalhoun »

Liftyee wrote: post #6

As a lifelong Android user (in the EU, where Apple hegemony is not as strong) I always saw Apple as the "pay more for more polished ecosystem UX" option. So it always surprises me when things that are trivial on Android/Linux are sticking points on iOS/macOS. Worse, it seems that proprietary means you can't do anything to fix them yourself.

I am an android and windows user but i have an ipad and i listen to an apple-centric podcast and I'm amazed at the things that don't work. I've been using swiftkey on android since before MS bought it so I kept using it on ipad. The ipad reverts to the apple keyboard all the time.

On macos there was a post a day or two ago about window arrangement which seems very inferior to windows. I was in the mac lab at school and was surprised that there's no multi item clipboard built in. The answer seems to be use a 3rd party app for these but it seems odd that such basic things aren't built in.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by pocksuppet »

_diyar wrote: post #120
BinStorm wrote: post #115

I love the fervor with which this is written, but the threat is so weak I literally chuckled. Imagine your an exec or manager on the team for keyboard development. You read this, get to the end to discover the user is gonna switch devices for... 2 whole calander years? What's that amount to? Maybe 2 device upgrades on If your a die hard gotta have the newest latest model phone each year. Then what? you'll be back? Th…

Your comment makes no sense to me. What in your opinion would be a strong threat? 'Tim Cook, open the suspicion package I sent you in the mail!'?

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Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by Gander5739 »

mikepurvis wrote: post #344
mzmzmzm wrote: post #203

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I recently switched to iPhone for network reasons, and some UI/UX things are really shocking. There is no way to toggle location services without going into settings. The alarms are tricky to set and don't have niceties like telling you the time until your morning alarm. There is no clipboard history. They want you to use swipe gestures so much, the touch targets to exit fullscreen media are barely functional. If you…

I recently switched the other direction and one rough edge I was surprised to hit on Android is the state of copy and paste for images; on iOS I would copy from Google photos and paste in WhatsApp, now that's just gone and the only option is either Google photos share-to or WhatsApp insert-from. There seems to be pseudo image clipboard support but it's mostly limited to pasting between Chrome tabs afaict. My switchin…

I've been a lifelong Android user and still find this a glaring omission. As far as I can tell, copying an image in a browser and then pasting it elsewhere results in a character.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by wtallis »

soperj wrote: post #251
wtallis wrote: post #209

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Selling an old model for a few years after its replacement shows up is not unusual. The only thing unusual here is that the 12" MacBook didn't end up actually replacing the MacBook Air in the long run, and the next major iteration went back to being called "MacBook Air". The three-year gap in processor updates you're complaining about disappears when you recognize the 12" MacBook as an attempt to move the product lin…

> disappears when you recognize the 12" MacBook as an attempt to move the product line in a different direction, which Apple partially backtracked on after a few years. and if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle. As far as I can glean this was never something that they intended to do.

That's entirely you choosing to ignore real and relevant products that Apple shipped during the time period you claim they were doing nothing. If you're looking for some kind of absolute consistency in when and how Apple uses the "Air" modifier on their product names, you haven't been paying attention.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by eptcyka »

speak_plainly wrote: post #324
eptcyka wrote: post #33

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Of course, the first party keyboard doesn't work, you should use the ones that definitely do not phone home to either Google or Microsoft. Of course regular window management doesn't just work out of the box, you should install one of the many different window managers on macOS. I was under the impression that to get a product that just works, I can buy Apple hardware, right?

Is this an actual bug or is this just a corrupt database or corrupt setting? What steps were taken to try to alleviate the issue, basics like resetting the keyboard dictionary? DFU restore of the phone? If you're not willing to troubleshoot an issue on your phone, rather than just throw it away and buy an Android, trying a 3rd party keyboard seems sensible to me. Ultimately, Apple is responsible here but I don't thin…

What are you even talking about? DFU mode? For a keyboard ussue? My brither in christ, it is a keyboard, it is the one thing that must just work. Oh yeah, let me just dump a sysdiagnose for the 50th time today because the keyboard chose to autocorrect my spelling into nonesense. I submit enough bugs as is, I receive radio silence enough, I ain’t got time to do unpaid qa or pr for a billion dollar company. What is so dofficult about observing that the touch inputs and the touch feedback does not match the characters that end up produced into the text input field.

Does it even matter if it is a corrupt setting or not? Why would it matter? As far as I am concerned, I am seeing every iOS user around me suffering from this. The root cause does not matter here.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by recursive »

LanceH wrote: post #368
Someone1234 wrote: post #219

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Exactly! The fact that this has 300+ votes and is on HN's front page (and is just CONSTANTLY brought up on Reddit), should really tell you how fed up people are with the iOS keyboard experience. I legit feel like Apple should actually make a public statement like "we hear you, we're working on it!" because it is actually bad PR at this point.

Apple is allergic to admitting anything. They go straight from "there is no problem" to "this update brings improvements".

This new keyboard is revolutionary. It's not just an improvement in the way you will type. It's an entirely new way of expressing yourself.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by bnchrch »

driverdan wrote: post #346
bnchrch wrote: post #294

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Its a real issue in North America. SMS and as a result iMessage is the dominant text based chat. iPhones have become the default smartphone, and is a status symbol compared to Android. Mac vs Windows is similar on the laptop front. Which means if your an Android user in a relatively average social group: * You will get left out of group messages * You will be starting on a back foot in the dating scene On top of you…

Sounds like a good way to filter out assholes. Anyone who cares what phone you use in this way is someone you don't want in your life.

Maybe, but let me pose you mental model that a lot of NA iPhone users have.

For a long time, if you were on iOS and added a android user to your group chat. All threading was broken. It was no longer a group chat just a bunch of out of band messages.

So iOS users naturally started leaving the android user out of the chat. They would text their 5 friends on iOS in one group to make plans, then text their Android friend separately to update them when plans were made.

I believe this is relatively fixed in latest iOS, but that habit is still very much their in iOS users today.

Anecdotally I did just experience a group chat of 4 iOS users this year that was very active, then died when one person switched to Android.

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