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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by lanfeust6 »

pmdr wrote: post #350
lanfeust6 wrote: post #308

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The corollary to times changing is that periodically what's old is new again. We can't have our cake and eat it too; if the gripe is that for-profit services become enshittified, then necessarily FOSS should be given a shot, but adding to that I'd say some of these platforms re-invent the wheel or add a coat of paint. What you can do with Discord you can already accomplish with a mix of IRC, vbulletin forums, email,…

What we really need to get rid of is platforms. vBulletin sells you software. It's up to you what you choose to use it for. Platforms like Discord and Reddit need to have final say on a lot of things because they need investor/advertiser cash at some point. And by 'get rid of' I mean avoid using them in settings that would be severely impacted by a platform's decision. For example, I don't want to have to upload my I…

My cynical view is that this already exists, and people will still move to platforms, either because it's the next-popular-thing or there's less friction.

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direwolf20 wrote: post #342
trinix912 wrote: post #199

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Is it really though? The average user doesn't need to know about all other clients, how it all works, etc. They just "open this website, register, and you're in!" It's not like the registration process necessarily involves typing in the server IP and port number, picking and setting up an advanced TUI client or something else.

If you're saying the user either has to put up with a shit client (friction) or go looking for other clients (friction) (and know they have to do that (friction!)) then yes it's friction. The Lounge is open website, type name, you're in. Matrix definitely is not.

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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

direwolf20 wrote: post #138
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #76

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> Matrix → flexible but rough UX Matrix's UI/UX is actually really flexible with multiple clients. You aren't struck with Element, you can even use TUI clients or any clients. For the web, the one which I really love is cinny. Cinny is really awesome, its UI/UX is better than discord imo. I recommend people to check out the matrix ecosystem of clients to see what they like, because I also liked the fractal gnu app &…

More friction!

I understand what you are trying to see but this is the price of freedom. Freedom of having multiple clients.

But Ignorance is also bliss and I recommend you (or many people) as such to be ignorant if it feels frictional to them and just use cinny.

"Just use cinny" It really can't get any simpler than that for most purposes in my opinion

cinny is really improving in adding features plus its open source and I do feel like its UI/UX done right for the most part.

So I get what you mean but there's no free lunch. I really don't know what we are comparing against given that discord is literally adding User ID verification. This feels such an non-issue to it and I hope you can agree with that.

So in essence, to break the network effects of discord. I recommend people to embrace cinny for the most part if they are worried about lack of UI/UX or the amount of options and what to pick. I had done some amounts of search and this is what I landed on for the most part.

Just use cinny, my friend :)

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Post by AbraKdabra »

riskable wrote: post #281

Everyone talking about this seems to completely forget WHY everyone's using Discord: It's fun . Discord has animated (custom) emoji, loops videos properly, silly bots, and fantastic voice chat with screen/game streaming to a HUGE amount of simultaneous users. The end user can pick and choose who they want to watch on-the-fly while remaining in the same voice channel. The entire concept of a business using Discord for…

It's fun until they ask for a face or ID scan.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

BowBun wrote: post #276
cheeseomlit wrote: post #237

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>Most people use Discord for its community features and being able to join massive servers with 1+ million people Do they? Personally I've never willingly joined one of those massive servers, only when forced to by some projects that refuse to host their content anywhere else- and its always a terrible experience. 99% of my discord usage is just a group chat with my IRL friends, so when looking for alternative I dont…

They have >200 million DAUs and guesses say they have >10K servers with >10K users. Assumptions from a tech crowd who were used to IRC should be taken with a grain of salt. Now if we're just looking for alternatives for ourselves, cool. But I think the reality is that most normal users do fully lean into the social aspects of Discord. A server like Marvel Rivals has literally millions of users. Players join that disc…

I have said many times, Discord isn't just chat, it is 100% a social media app.

I think there's definitely more than 10 thousand servers... Unless they mean active? Even so... there's 3.2 million Discord servers with the Disboard bot installed, that's just Disboard, a way to advertise your Discord. There's likely millions more with no bots.

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Post by jajuuka »

I think this might be putting the cart before the horse. It doesn't really hit the multiple ways Discord is used. From friend groups, to organized gaming, to software support services. Moving you and a couple friends is easy. However as the group grows larger it becomes harder to move.

I think a better question right now is "what does Discord consider adult content?" Is it just NSFW stuff or does it include other topics as well? If everyone's account becomes a flagged as a teen account and the content isn't NSFW then what is the reason to leave at that point? You aren't forced to show an ID and face scan to keep using the platform. So most servers may be able to just keep business as usual.

It's FAR more burdensome to assemble some amalgamation of features and content to be a replacement and move the community over. At least at the moment. Seems very reminiscent of the first exodus to Mastodon. Where there was excitement in the beginning but ultimately people went back to Twitter and stopped using Mastodon because only the most hardcore privacy nerds moved.

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Post by ses1984 »

Krasnol wrote: post #338
ses1984 wrote: post #234

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Not a single link has anything on OPs claim.

You’re right, so that must mean whatsapp is totally safe, right?
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