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Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by Zambyte »

jeltz wrote: post #163
Nextgrid wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have you considered moving or having at least an alternative Not who you're responding to, but my 2 cents: for a popular open-source project reliant on community contributions there is really no alternative. It's similar to social media - we all know it's trash and noxious, but if you're any kind of public figure you have to be there.

Several quite big projects have moved to Codeberg. I have no idea how it has worked out for them.

Zig has been doing fine since switching to Codeberg

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by altern8 »

One reason for the reduction in global downtime could be that with time they add more and more services that can go down and affect the stats.

Just saying.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

ezst wrote: post #328
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #267

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This is obviously empty speculation, but I wonder if the mindless rush to AI has anything to do with the increase in outages we've seen recently.

Or maybe the mindless rush to host it in azure?

Or both!

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by iLoveOncall »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #267
showerst wrote: post #7

If you'd have asked me a few years ago if anything could be an existential threat to github's dominance in the tech community I'd have quickly said no. If they don't get their ops house in order, this will go down as an all-time own goal in our industry.

This is obviously empty speculation, but I wonder if the mindless rush to AI has anything to do with the increase in outages we've seen recently.

It does. I work at Amazon and I can see the increase in outages or major issues since AI has been pushed.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by ChrisArchitect »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #223

Related incidents: Incident with Pull Requests https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/smf24rvl67v9 Copilot Policy Propagation Delays https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/t5qmhtg29933 Incident with Actions https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/tkz0ptx49rl0 Degraded performance for Copilot Coding Agent https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/qrlc0jjgw517 Degraded Performance in Webhooks API and UI, Pull Requests http…

In addition:

Notifications are delayed https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/54hndjxft5bx

Incident with Issues, Actions and Git Operations https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/lcw3tg2f6zsd

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by amonith »

nosman wrote: post #309
amonith wrote: post #292

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I'm a firm believer that almost nothing except public services needs that kind of uptime... We've introduced ridiculous amounts of complexity to our infra to achieve this and we've contributed to the increasing costs of both services and development itself (the barrier of entry for current juniors is insane compared to what I've had to deal with in my early 20s).

What do you mean by public services? All kinds of companies lose millions of dollars of revenue per day if not hour if their sites are not stable.... apple, amazon, google, Shopify, uber, etc etc. Those companies have decided the extra complexity is worth the reliability. Even if you're operating a tech company that doesn't need to have that kind of uptime, your developers probably need those services to be productiv…

By public services I mean only important things like healthcare, law enforcement, fire department. Definitely not stores and food delivery. You can wait an hour or even a couple of hours for that.

> Those companies have decided the extra complexity is worth the reliability.

Companies always want more money and yes it makes sense economically. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that nobody needs this. I grew up in a world where this wasn't a thing and no, life wasn't worse at all.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by BrouteMinou »

chrisandchris wrote: post #368
12_throw_away wrote: post #262

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14 incidents in February! It's February 9th! Glad to see the latest great savior phase of the AI industrial complex [1] is going just as well as all the others! [1] https://www.theverge.com/tech/865689/microsoft-claude-code-a...

An interesting thing I notice now is that people do not like companies that only post about outages if half the world have them ... and also not companies that also post about "minor issues", e.g.: > During this time, workflows experienced an average delay of 49 seconds, and 4.7% of workflow runs failed to start within 5 minutes. That's for sure not perfect, but there was also a 95% chance that if you have re-run the…

Dude, that's just a reason to scream at the clouds... Literally...

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by Macha »

jeltz wrote: post #163
Nextgrid wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have you considered moving or having at least an alternative Not who you're responding to, but my 2 cents: for a popular open-source project reliant on community contributions there is really no alternative. It's similar to social media - we all know it's trash and noxious, but if you're any kind of public figure you have to be there.

Several quite big projects have moved to Codeberg. I have no idea how it has worked out for them.

I would have said Codeberg’s reliability was a problem for them but… gestures vaguely at the submission
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