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OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by KaiserPro »

anhner wrote: post #288
KaiserPro wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but you understand why allowing access to unauthenticated voice is bad for security right?

But you understand why if I don't care about that, I should be able to run it, right?

you can, you can turn locking off.

But the point is, you are a power user, who has some understanding of the risk. You know that if your phone is stolen and it has any cards stored on them, they can be easily transferred to another phone and drained. Because your bank will send a confirmation code, and its still authorized, you will be held liable for that fraud.

THe "man in the street" does not know that, and needs some level of decent safe defaults to avoid such fraud.

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Post by threetonesun »

randusername wrote: post #377

I haven't seen mention of macOS Automator or AppleScript yet. 15 years ago or so almost everything you wanted to do on a Mac GUI already _was_ scriptable. Shortcuts is better than nothing, but unsatisfying. I read this less as a fumble and more as a frustrating sign of the times. Automation is not powerful because powerful automation is a maintenance and malfeasance liability only valued by a tiny minority.

Shortcuts on the desktop can run shell commands or Applescript. You can send a limited number of things to Apple Intelligence in it already too. I still rarely use it. There's probably good things I could codify (like search all my Mail and Calendar events for a given string), but the reality is most stuff I don't do on a regular basis, and a natural language request to go do something would be a lot easier.

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Post by smallmancontrov »

schnable wrote: post #373
puppymaster wrote: post #243

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Regardless of how Apple will solve this, please just solve it. Siri is borderline useless these days. > Will it rain today? Please unlock your iphone for that > Any new messages from Chris? You will need to unlock your iphone for that > Please play youtube music Playing youtube music... please open youtube music app to do that All settings and permission granted. Utterly painful.

I think half your examples are made up, or not Apple's fault, but it sounds like what you really want is to disable your passcode.

"Will it rain today? Sorry, I can't do that while you're driving."

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Post by Panda4 »

a_ba wrote: post #354

Can someone enlighten me what people actually use this for? The article mentions „managing your calendar, responding to emails, file your taxes“ The bottleneck for emails and my calendar is not the speed at which I can type/click some buttons, but rather figuring out what I want to write or clarifying priorities when managing my calendar.

I'm also curious.

So far the only purpose I have seen for this is people selling the hype; people posting videos/courses on how to use it.

I have downloaded and tried it and I can't figure out why would I need it.

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Post by verdverm »

senordevnyc wrote: post #341
Schiendelman wrote: post #68

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That is nearly as dangerous - it causes inattention blindness.

No, it's really not.

Close to 10 deaths per day (>3000 per year) and 10% of all traffic fatalities in the US, and you want to claim it's not dangerous?

https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving

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Post by LoganDark »

crazygringo wrote: post #10

> This is exactly what Apple Intelligence should have been... They could have shipped an agentic AI that actually automated your computer instead of summarizing your notifications. Imagine if Siri could genuinely file your taxes, respond to emails, or manage your calendar by actually using your apps, not through some brittle API layer that breaks every update. And this is probably coming, a few years from now. Becaus…

> Because remember, Apple doesn't usually invent new products. It takes proven ones and then makes its own much nicer version.

Apple doesn't take proven ones of anything. What they do is arrive at something proven from first principles. Everyone else did it faster because they borrowed, but Apple did it from scratch, with all the detail-oriented UX niceties that entails.

This was more prevalent when Jobs was still around. Apple still has some of that philosophy at its core, but it's been eroding over time (for example with "AI" and now Liquid Ass). They still do their own QA, though, and so on. They're not copying the market, they have their own.

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Post by LoganDark »

Anelya wrote: post #313
anhner wrote: post #289

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Oh no, what if they put on Christmas music playlist in February? the horror! There should exist something between "don't allow anything without unlocking phone first" and "leave the phone unlocked for anyone to access", like "allow certain voice commands to be available to anyone even with phone locked"

Can it not recognize my voice? I had to record the pronunciation of 100 words when I setup my new iPhone - isn’t there a voice signature pattern that could be the key to unlock?

Personal Voice learns to synthesize your voice, not to identify it.

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Post by chefsweaty »

ordersofmag wrote: post #203
chefsweaty wrote: post #191

What's the difference between a Mac Mini and a MacBook in clamshell mode for this? I get the aesthetic appeal of the mini, but beyond that, what's unique about the mini for personal use?

Price. For a given CPU and RAM the mini is cheaper. Why pay more for portability you aren't going to use.

True. I had assumed that mini prices had gone higher than they're at right now.

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Post by charcircuit »

KaiserPro wrote: post #380
charcircuit wrote: post #290

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Meanwhile if you social engineer someone to run a piece of malware on macos. That malware can run npm install, steal your payment info and bitcoin keys, and upload any nsfw videos it finds to an attacker's server. That doesn't mean we should prevent people from installing software until the security situation is improved.

Right I'm going to assume you're naive rather than just instantly being contrarian. Yes of course someone could be socially engineered into downloading a malicious package, but that takes more effort, so whilst bad, is not an argument for removing all best security practices that have been rolled out to users in the last 5 years. what you are arguing for is a fundamentally unsafe OS that means no sensitive data can e…

Truly sensitive files do not need to be shared with your AI agent. If you have an executive assistant you don't have to give them all of your personal information for them to be able to be useful.

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Post by mikkupikku »

_se wrote: post #319
crazygringo wrote: post #10

> This is exactly what Apple Intelligence should have been... They could have shipped an agentic AI that actually automated your computer instead of summarizing your notifications. Imagine if Siri could genuinely file your taxes, respond to emails, or manage your calendar by actually using your apps, not through some brittle API layer that breaks every update. And this is probably coming, a few years from now. Becaus…

How do people manage to pick such bad examples? Who in their right mind would ever allow an LLM to FILE THEIR TAXES for them. Absolutely insane behavior. Why would anyone think this is probably coming? Do you think the IRS is going to accept "hallucination lol" as an excuse for misfiling?

If you're quick at responding and fixing the problem, the IRS forgives much..
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