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Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by taurath »

CalRobert wrote: post #378
lrvick wrote: post #368

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I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Do you hit issues around things like 2fa, online banking?

Most 2FA can be done without a phone, and you can also use offline 2FA keys, not necessarily a text message.

You can also set up a phone number to accept texts from a laptop.

I can do whatever on my bank by just calling. It would be a bit weird to never be able to pitch in on meals with a $ transfer app, but I suppose when you run 2 tech companies you're probably paying most of the time, or you just take a note and transfer it later.

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Post by lrvick »

hpdigidrifter wrote: post #376
lrvick wrote: post #368

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I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Pardon my skepticism but I find it hard to believe you can actually participate in western society without choosing to have a government mandated tracking device? Maybe you live somewhere this is possible but it's definitely not in the developed world

I am a security engineer and I live and work in Silicon Valley with an active social life. None of these things require a phone.

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Post by lrvick »

taurath wrote: post #380
hpdigidrifter wrote: post #376

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Pardon my skepticism but I find it hard to believe you can actually participate in western society without choosing to have a government mandated tracking device? Maybe you live somewhere this is possible but it's definitely not in the developed world

Runs 2 tech companies - the basic promise of the US is when you're rich you can do whatever the hell you want because you can pay people to handle stuff for you. But also, one doesn't always need a phone - phones can die, signal is not gauranteed. What are your "must have" things that require one to have a smart phone to participate? Assume the poster has a home phone, laptop, and credit card.

Small companies that are 100% FOSS with no VC investment, where everyone has to pull their own weight. I do not have a personal assistant or anything like that and navigate the real world, travel, etc, very often alone.

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Post by whatshisface »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #274
globalnode wrote: post #254

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dont have to be a leftie to hate genocide but glad your loving it... youll have plenty to love about the world going forward ;)

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I wish I could maintain a similar level of recent news avoidance.

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Post by lrvick »

CalRobert wrote: post #378
lrvick wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Do you hit issues around things like 2fa, online banking?

All 2FA options that require a phone like TOTP can be done just as easily on a laptop with a yubikey or nitrokey.

I have several business and personal bank accounts with two major banks. No Android or iOS needed.

Sure they push you hard to use them, but just say it is against your unspecified religion. They cannot make you use Android or iOS.

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Post by [deleted] »

Zetaphor wrote: post #366
voidfunc wrote: post #349

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Idealist views like this get us nowhere either tho. The reality is somewhat more murky. On a long enough time horizon your point makes sense, we might be able to get rid of the security state by slowly chipping away at ig over hundreds or thousands of years. Most of us are going to be dead in about 40 years tho. Security state isn't going anywhere in that timeframe.

I'm curious to hear someone explain why you're being downvoted

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Post by close04 »

CalRobert wrote: post #379
Zetaphor wrote: post #366

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I'm curious to hear someone explain why you're being downvoted

Maybe the dead in forty years comment. Though considering accelerating climate collapse and the possibility of nuclear conflict it’s not completely unreasonable in my view.

I read it as we’ll be dead because most people on this forum are 30+ years old and will statistically be dead ~70. Most of us, not most of humanity.

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Post by lrvick »

lazide wrote: post #370
lrvick wrote: post #368

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I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

I’m guessing you have a bunch of other people with their own cell phones doing things? That’s the reason most other people are (fundamentally) going to struggle.

Traveling internationally or domestically, booking flights, hotels, going to concerts, theme parks, the movies, organizing hangouts with friends, exploring new locations... all of these things I do just fine by using a web browser on a desktop computer before I leave home, and sometimes printing a couple things. I live a typical middle class lifestyle just without the doom scrolling.

All the ways of living an active life engaged in the modern world that worked before the 2009 smartphone explosion still work just fine today. Just without tiktok and instagram. I think I am okay without those.

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