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U.S. government has lost more than 10k STEM PhDs since Trump took office

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Post by insane_dreamer »

dragontamer wrote: post #194
krona wrote: post #151

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I'm honestly not sure what you're referring to.

Geely owns Volvo and IIRC a significant portion of Volvos are Chinese made now. There's a number of companies or brands that are now Chinese owned. China knows that home grown brands (like Geely) don't work on an international stage, so they buy well known brands like Volvo. It's a bit of a silent behind the scenes takeover but I'd say that China is now seriously making competitive cars. If you can follow the brands…

Geely is Volvo's parent company but Volvo still designs and manufactures its cars. Geely gets to benefit from Volvo technology for its own Chinese brands.

Just like Tata owns Jaguar and Land Rover but it doesn't mean India is "pumping out world-class cars".

I left China in 2017 so my info is a little dated but unless there was a _giant_ leap in quality I wouldn't trust a Chinese car any more than I trust other Chinese products (products made to spec in China is a different matter altogether). And when I was there anyone in China who could afford a foreign brand wasn't buying Chinese brands either.

It's not that Chinese are incapable of making great products, but cutting corners and crappy customer service is deeply embedded into their business culture. Things are changing but there's still a long way to go.

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Post by bluecalm »

retired wrote: post #278
bluecalm wrote: post #273

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>>Tax on investments are averagely taxed compared to other countries. That is only if you haven't accumulated wealth yet. The combination of quite high capital gain tax with sky high wealth tax, pretty high income tax isn't very attractive if your plan is to accumulate some wealth. If you just want to make enough every year to live there I guess it's reasonable though.

I future-proofed myself by moving to a region with a €3M exception. So that I have a long way to go before paying wealth tax. CGT is progressive and around 20%, compared to other European countries that is fairly average. Some Eastern European countries are at 15%, Belgian is going to 10%, Switzerland differs per canton. Also, no CGT for fresh immigrants if you are able to use the Beckham law.

Is the exception still valid? I thought the new central regulation in effect removed those (if the region has exceptions then you pay federal "solidarity" tax). They introduced it to fight Madrid's and Andalusia's exemptions.

I investigated it some time ago though when I was considering moving to Andalusia so maybe something changed.

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Post by Peaches4Rent »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #355
sheikhnbake wrote: post #302

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We in the US have been so propagandized against China that even relatively progressive people that are completely against the Trump admin think China is an authoritarian hellscape. And while China is obviously not a utopia, I'd be hard pressed to find a metric there that hasn't surpassed our own.

US is quickly heading the direction of China, but China is much much further along the path of authoritarian hellscape: no free speech at all, no freedom of the press, all social media is heavily censored, and the GFW allows government control of the Internet (yes, I know, VPNs exist, but they can be shut down and aren't even on the radar of the vast majority of the population.) All this was already the case in 2017…

Agreed. I think the original thread was about which country you would rather visit as a European. And it seems that China comes ahead

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Post by water9 »

yndoendo wrote: post #373
Hammershaft wrote: post #286

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The %55 budget cut is proposed, it fortunately hasn't happened yet and it might not survive congress.

Damage has been done. I working on de-investing in the USA companies and investing in the EU. USA executive branch, legislative branch, and judicial branch are a complacent in stupidity. There is no stability in the USA and no longer rule of law.

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Post by bulbar »

kevinsync wrote: post #250
adev_ wrote: post #227

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European researcher here. There is an other thing that should make America worry. Research grants have been cut everywhere in the US. That cuts deep and terminated many scientific collaborations between USA and the EU Horizons projects in many STEMs research fields. That created a void.... and sciences is like nature: it hates void (and the lack of money...) My perception in the domain is that the resulting void is b…

You being an outside observer of my country, what do you think the mid-term (next ~decade) looks like if the US is somehow able to flush the toilet and do a complete 180 from a policy and administration perspective? I imagine even if people we need are welcomed back with open arms, they're not going to want to come. I sure wouldn't want to go back to a bar where the bouncer kicked the shit out of me! Just curious, it…

Regarding general politics / economics, the damage has been done. The western world has now started to create a western world that's not centered around the US as it was the case before. It is yet to be seen if the US will again be or remain being part of the western world.

It's a bad development but necessary, sadly. We can only hope that Europe rises and comes out as a new strong center eventually, because we need one to counter all those powerful and evil actors in the world.

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Post by Aqua0 »

actionfromafar wrote: post #331
sheikhnbake wrote: post #302

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We in the US have been so propagandized against China that even relatively progressive people that are completely against the Trump admin think China is an authoritarian hellscape. And while China is obviously not a utopia, I'd be hard pressed to find a metric there that hasn't surpassed our own.

China has no free speech and will start flexing its imperial muscle more now that the US is climbing down from the world stage. China is alright if you keep your head down and you're not of the wrong ethnicity, locked up in a work camp and not allowed to have kids, or too openly gay or trans and so on.

The history of civilization over the past 5,000 years proves that China has never been an empire of foreign aggression. On the contrary, look at the 300-year-old modern history of the United States. Take off the tinted glasses of racism and savor it for yourself!

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Post by Aqua0 »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #381
dragontamer wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geely owns Volvo and IIRC a significant portion of Volvos are Chinese made now. There's a number of companies or brands that are now Chinese owned. China knows that home grown brands (like Geely) don't work on an international stage, so they buy well known brands like Volvo. It's a bit of a silent behind the scenes takeover but I'd say that China is now seriously making competitive cars. If you can follow the brands…

Geely is Volvo's parent company but Volvo still designs and manufactures its cars. Geely gets to benefit from Volvo technology for its own Chinese brands. Just like Tata owns Jaguar and Land Rover but it doesn't mean India is "pumping out world-class cars". I left China in 2017 so my info is a little dated but unless there was a _giant_ leap in quality I wouldn't trust a Chinese car any more than I trust other Chines…

You can't buy $100 worth of merchandise for 1 penny. It's the manufacturer's principal's bid and proposed criteria that are key.

There are still a lot of third world populations in the world that need low quality, low price shit. Including parts of the U.S. population.

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