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Post by mrexcess »

SilverBirch wrote: post #336
imgabe wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, because TikTok is the only way people in the US can access information.

No, they also access information through Facebook owned by Trump ally Zuckerberg, X owned by Trump doner and DOGE former official Musk, or via media organisations like CBS who have recently had their editorial standards changed to be more friendly to the regime. It's fine though people can here about the regime through neutral pundits like Jimmy Kimmel, who definitely hasn't come under any pressure to comply with the…

>I just don't think you're paying attention

Alternate explanation: they are paying intense attention... to the palms that are pressed desperately against their eye sockets as they attempt to See No Evil.

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Post by direwolf20 »

debo_ wrote: post #26
direwolf20 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Thank you, Godwin.

Godwin's law is not a useful heuristic, and Godwin himself regrets it. Every universal principle should have its extreme cases tested. If you claim it should be fine to say anything at all, then you have to test that against the limits like HH, or North Korean propaganda, or death threats, etc.

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Post by lenerdenator »

1over137 wrote: post #367
lostlogin wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is threatening invade other places, which are of more value to them.

>China is threatening invade other places... Taiwan and where else?

Pretty much anything that happens to abut the South China Sea.

I suppose you could also make the argument that they already did invade Tibet and Hong Kong, though that's splitting hairs.

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Post by MattDaEskimo »

jmyeet wrote: post #240
MattDaEskimo wrote: post #137

It feels like federated networks with open-sourced feed algorithms are the best path forward. If AI removes any technical limitations, and automates content management, what's stopping a content creator from owning what they create and distributing it themselves? How can centralization continue to survive?

Why do so many tech people push this "federation is a panacea" idea despite all evidence to the contrary? I don't get it. First, the obvious: if federation was clearly superior, it would've won. No medium since email has been federated and even that's dominated by a handful of players. Running your own email server is... nontrivial. Second, users don't care abou tthis. Like at all. Third, supposedly tech-savvy people…

Running your own email server is not trivial.

Federated networks are theoretically and systematically superior to centralized, that's why people push it.

Humanity and social media isn't about technological superiority. Current platforms have inertia. Why would people fragment when all they care about is basic actions, and their network is already built?

Federated networks have been burdened by an onboarding tax, but this, along with moderation, can all be abstracted away by AI.

Let's see the current reality: social media platforms are currently American-dominated. A serious geopolitical problem, especially considering the amount of time younger generations spend on it.

There is more and more reason for governments to get involved and force the fragmentation of these platforms.

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Post by rcpt »

intermerda wrote: post #293
rcpt wrote: post #255

Nuts that the whole company is in on it. Missing such a huge story is something that rank and file engineers would notice. But nobody is saying anything. Perhaps on the tiktok Blind?

The Blind community is one of the most toxic communities out there. It made me sick even before the tech industry had its mask off moment 1+ year ago. Since then they’ve only amped up the racism and hate. I wouldn’t expect to find any serious discussion there.

Blind is fine. It's close to the forums of the ancient Internet.

If there was some "mask off" moment I don't know what it was, and I've been in this industry for a while. Perhaps you're just projecting out from Elon? It's a popular thing to do nowadays.

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Post by megolodan »

jmyeet wrote: post #240
MattDaEskimo wrote: post #137

It feels like federated networks with open-sourced feed algorithms are the best path forward. If AI removes any technical limitations, and automates content management, what's stopping a content creator from owning what they create and distributing it themselves? How can centralization continue to survive?

Why do so many tech people push this "federation is a panacea" idea despite all evidence to the contrary? I don't get it. First, the obvious: if federation was clearly superior, it would've won. No medium since email has been federated and even that's dominated by a handful of players. Running your own email server is... nontrivial. Second, users don't care abou tthis. Like at all. Third, supposedly tech-savvy people…

For almost all of human history information has been centralized among a small actors, for some time period we had a large independent press but those days are gone.

Everyone has a stake in getting accurate information, and therefore they have an interest in owning part of that system.

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Post by mrexcess »

Aurornis wrote: post #73
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

> that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to The information is everywhere. Visit any news site, open any general social media feed, turn on any TV. We’re discussing it right now in the front page of HN! Everyone in the US has easy access to the same information. Acting like only the rest of the world has easy access to this information is ridiculous.

>The information is everywhere.

For those who know to look for it, sure.

For those who do not already know it, discovery is increasingly challenged by the deliberately obscurant curators of the information space, who are oddly tightly and uniformly aligned with special interest groups openly declaring their intent to hide that information and punish dissemination thereof.

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Post by thesmtsolver2 »

1over137 wrote: post #229
palmotea wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Case-in-point of why we shouldn't have approached China like we did over the last few decades. It normalized totalitarianism in some segments of Western society. An interesting thought I read a couple days ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/opinion/trump-carney-chin... : > Finally, and most controversially, I suspect the same “if not America, then China” logic applies to political ordering as well. The United…

China is not publicly espousing conquering Canada and Greenland (Europe). Who would you choose, the people threatening to invade you, or the other guys?!?!

China claims parts of India, occupied some parts already in Ladakh, has conquered and subjugates Tibet, subjugates Xinjiang and has disputes with almost all other neighbors.

As a person whose country is being threatened by China, I support the US.

If China were as developed as the US, a lot of China’s threats would have been reality.

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Post by palmotea »

1over137 wrote: post #367
lostlogin wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is threatening invade other places, which are of more value to them.

>China is threatening invade other places... Taiwan and where else?

There's also the whole South China sea thing, where they're making claims on international waters and the territorial waters of their neighbors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_So...

But I have a feeling your position is basically "Except for all the cases where they're threatening their neighbors, they're not threatening their neighbors at all."

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Post by thesmtsolver2 »

1over137 wrote: post #367
lostlogin wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is threatening invade other places, which are of more value to them.

>China is threatening invade other places... Taiwan and where else?

Arunachal Pradesh.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna245797

Tibet and Xinjiang already conquered and we have forgotten about them.

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