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Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Are you being sarcastic or serious? Meeting requirements is implicitly part of any task. Quality/quantification will be embedded in the tasks (e.g. X must be Y ); code style and quality guidelines are probably there somewhere in his tasks templates. Implicitly, explicit portions of tasks will be covered by testing. I do think it's overly complex though; but it's a novel concept.

Everything you said is also done for regular non-ai development, OP is saying there is no way to compare the two (or even compare version x of gas town to version y of gas town) because there are 0 statistics or metrics on what gas town produces.

It's 3 weeks old. If you're so desperate for numbers, give it a go?

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Very interesting to read people’s belief in English as an unambiguous and testable language. One comment claims it’s not necessary to read code when there is documentation (generated by an LLM) Language varies with geography and with time. British, Americans, and Canadians speak “similar” English, but not identical. And read a book from 70-80 years ago to see that many words appear to be used for their “secondary mea…

As a coworker said this week, there are 10 meanings of the word 'fashion' in English

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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I agree, I’m one of the Very Serious Engineers and I liked Steve’s post when I thought it was sort of tongue in cheek but was horrified to come to the HN comments and LinkedIn comments proclaiming Gastown as the future of engineering. There absolutely is a large contingent of engineers who believe this, and it has a real world impact on my job if my bosses think you can just throw a dozen AI agents at our product roa…

I too am a Very Serious Engineer but my shock is in the other direction: of course the ideas behind Gas Town are the future of software development and several VSEs I know are developing a proper, robust, engineering version of it that works. As the author of this article here remarks “yes, but Steve did it first”, and it annoys me that if I had written this post nobody would have read it, but also that, because I in…

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Why is it hard to criticize people for being part of a scam operation? It's so morally and ethically bankrupt that it's really easy and valid to criticize someone for

Who is being scammed? The only people buying into tokens as obscure as these are degenerate gamblers who know very well that it's not any kind of an investment.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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> If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment: So, Steve has the big scary "YOU WILL DIE" statements in there, but he also has this: > I went ahead and built what’s next. First I predicted it, back in March, in Revenge of the Junior Developer. I predicted someone would lash the Claude Code camels together into chariots, and that is exactly what I’ve done with Gas Town. I’ve tamed them to…

I agree, I’m one of the Very Serious Engineers and I liked Steve’s post when I thought it was sort of tongue in cheek but was horrified to come to the HN comments and LinkedIn comments proclaiming Gastown as the future of engineering. There absolutely is a large contingent of engineers who believe this, and it has a real world impact on my job if my bosses think you can just throw a dozen AI agents at our product roa…

Embrace and use it to your advantage. Tell them nobody knows and understands how these things will actually work long term, that's why there's stuff like gas town, and that the way you see all of this is you can manage this process. What you bring to the table is making sure it will actually work if the tech is safe and sound, reaping the rewards, or protect the business if the tech fails, protecting the company from catastrophic tech failure, telll them that you are uniquely positioned to carry out the balancing act because you are deep in the tech itself. bonus if you explain the uncertainty framing in the business strategy: "because nobody really understands the tech nobody has an advantage, we are all playing on a leveled field, from the big boys at FAANGs to us peasants in normal non-tech enterprises: I am your advantage here if you give me the tools and leverage I need to make this work". if you play this right you'll get the fat bonus whether the tech actually works or not.

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But people do. There are people who genuinely think crypto is an investment. Yes, smart people knows it is just a grift and that it is just about selling it on to the next person before it crashes. But is it moral to make money on stupid people? Many people lose all their money on gambling even if we always known gambling is a loss.

> There are people who genuinely think crypto is an investment.

Sure! Are those people buying bags.fm tokens? Probably not.

This isn't even marketed as an investment https://bags.fm but a crowdfunding tool for developers with a casino attached.

You don't have to be smart to read the big text on the website.

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Because you'd be aiding and abetting a pennystock scam.

The difference between bags.fm and pennystock scams is that bags.fm is very obviously not marketed as an investment, but a crowdfunding tool.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

This is just not true. Yegge is serious and thinks Gas Town is the next big thing.

He did us once with Javascript prophecy. Has this man no decency?? :)

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Why is it hard to criticize people for being part of a scam operation? It's so morally and ethically bankrupt that it's really easy and valid to criticize someone for

Who is being scammed? The only people buying into tokens as obscure as these are degenerate gamblers who know very well that it's not any kind of an investment.

That sounds like victim blaming to me

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Who is being scammed? The only people buying into tokens as obscure as these are degenerate gamblers who know very well that it's not any kind of an investment.

That sounds like victim blaming to me

It's not a scam, there's no misrepresentation. This very clearly isn't marketed as an investment of any kind https://bags.fm

https://apps.apple.com/app/bags-financial-messenger/id647319...

The tagline of the app? "Buy & sell memecoins". Transparently advertised as a crowdfunding mechanism using memecoins.

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