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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by Touche »

AznHisoka wrote: post #83
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

AI SEO is where the attention is going, with ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini/Google AI Overviews replacing the need for people to visit websites

I don't know why people are down-voting it. You might not like it, you may not think it's good. But this is absolutely happening and there's a lot of data out there about it.

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Post by timnetworks »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #228
mingus88 wrote: post #158

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Google ads is dead precisely because their search product is dead. Ever since Google bought double click, their ads business has been their search business. They are the same product.

> their search product is dead Do we have any evidence search volume is down? Don't get me wrong, I'm an avid Kagi user. But I'm sceptical anyone outside tech is using anything other than Google.

I watch people search for PlatformName Login every single day because they don't know how URLs work.

Google isn't search. It's a crutch for people with too much time and money.

p.s. not google labs, not tpu's, but specifically search.

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Post by kakapo5672 »

hgomersall wrote: post #80
bdangubic wrote: post #53

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> When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief). If Google Ads is dead/dying the search is soon to follow...

Search died ages ago [1]. Ads dying is a direct consequence of that. [1] https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

You should let Google know, given their business is really humming nowadays. Along with their stock price.

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Post by daedrdev »

rickcarlino wrote: post #284
socalgal2 wrote: post #283

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Are you using "Meetups" to mean Meetup.com or just events in general? Meetup.com has completely gone to shit. Trying to find an event is super frustrating. They show the same events over and over. They don't enforce categorization. People mark online only events as in person and the platform doesn't care. They also started trying to charge users (people looking to attend events) instead of only planners (people hosti…

I meant both, and you are correct 100% that meet up has entirely gone to shit.

Yeah that is my experience entirely with meetup these days

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Post by zuminator »

pesus wrote: post #322
lostlogin wrote: post #255

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> Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended I wish you were right. We took our kid to a stage show she really wanted to see. People round us kept checking their phones. They weren’t even really checking them. They held them and would turn the screen on and off, lighting the place up. They couldn’t be without them for more than 5 minutes. This, after 30 mi…

I don't think the vibe shift they're describing has fully taken place yet, but I think the foundations have been laid and it's started. It's probably going to be a while and take further societal changes to fully come into fruition, though.

AR glasses coupled with a sophisticated input device (fingertap? tounguetap?) will eventually be able to fully replace a touchscreen interface. And from then on it'll eventually become dated and rude to resort to pulling out touch screens during a social event.

Mind you, inconsiderate people will be as distracted as ever, and will continue to halfheartedly pretend they're listening to those around them. They'll just need to find a new method to achieve maximal obnoxiousness.

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Post by sharinsights »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

Interesting way to put it!

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Post by notreallyauser »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #305
egypturnash wrote: post #282

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Everyone who was on Livejournal before G+ “invented” “Circles” had absolutely no problem with locking posts to “friends” (people they followed) or various “friends groups” that were subsets of their friends. It was fucking hilarious to see everyone say it was too hard on G+. Just two dropdowns right there on the new post page next to the main text field. Super simple. Creating and editing the groups was a pretty simp…

I still mourn G+. It was clearly put together by somebody who thought first and foremost about privacy. It made deciding who to share what with the central, most visible part of how it worked. And that's probably part of why it failed. Was it hard to choose? Nope. But I guarantee you that if Facebook added a little "hey, are you sure you want to share this post publicly with the whole world under your real name? Yes/…

People will make frequent mistakes if you put the privacy decision at a per post level. (And not just average users: see stevey's Google Platforms rant)

Having different apps, chats (Discord servers), accounts (at-a-push) for each privacy circle is much clearer to average users. Migrating a whole group of any size to another platform is hard, hence many of us are stuck with Facebookk in case we get invited to something we don't want to miss on it, but new platforms will continue to emerge and some will succeed.

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Post by DrewADesign »

hinkley wrote: post #260
mikepurvis wrote: post #176

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Absolutely this. I recently got a nice photo taken with my kids and for the first time I... didn't post it on Facebook. I sent it to my family group chat. Yesterday I posted on Facebook for the first time in months and it was about the power being out for an hour in the ice storm. I haven't posted travel photos to FB in years. I'm mostly still on FB at all for the acquaintance-level connections to things like neighbo…

One of the things I hope will come from the Trough of Disillusionment in cloud computing will be families running redundant file servers hosting the family photos instead of doing everything on IG. Your three tech savvy family members should all have redundant copies of the photos of memaw’s wedding and Uncle Jim when he was 2 and looked exactly like your cousin’s second kid. I don’t need to see those. Your stalker e…

My very vibes-based take is that setting up home servers is the dad jeans of tech hobbies. It's kind of arresting how bewildered many young people are when confronted with anything below the UI layer. I think peak tech savviness happened a bit younger than me: maybe mid-late millennial. After that you start getting into the iPad-from-birth generation for whom tech was rarely a challenge. Tech savviness among young folks feels more like it was in the mid-90s. They're infinity more online-savvy, no doubt, but when it comes to knowing anything about how that works, they're cooked.

I do know some non-developer Gen Z folks that would set up minecraft servers on DO droplets, but I don't know of any that actually made their own and hosted it on their own network.

Aside from more exposure to raw tech, the technology making the internet happen was a lot simpler back then, where servers were actually physical servers,and such. I was able to adopt the complexity progressively as it came into existence which is a lot easier with the base knowledge of how the building blocks worked.

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Post by criddell »

mcphage wrote: post #162
imiric wrote: post #110

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"AI" is the next advertising frontier, no question. People are throwing themselves to feed you personal data. You no longer have to come up with sneaky ways to collect it, or build out their profile from inferred metadata. Less work for you, more accurate profiling, and less risk getting fined by pesky regulation. Ad campaigns can be much more personal and targeted. You can push them at just the right moment to optim…

> the world is not ready for what advertising geniuses are cooking up as we speak. Advertising directed towards AI models, at the very least. If you can get into ChatGPT's weights that McDonalds is the cheapest and tastiest hamburger, how many millions of people would ChatGPT tell that to?

If ChatGPT told you to go to McDonald’s, would you?

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Post by emodendroket »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #73
1970-01-01 wrote: post #39

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Let's answer the question. Hard trending data on ads says everything is normal. https://www.statista.com/statistics/266249/advertising-reven...

Advertising revenue being up is also consistent with the linked article, since the writer had to increase ad spend to get any results before giving up entirely.

It's also not broken out -- for instance, if people move to advertising on YouTube instead of AdWords that's still revenue for Google.
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