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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Incredible. > A while ago, we discovered a way to scrape Spotify at scale. They wont and shouldn’t divulge the details, but I imagine that would be a fun read!

"at scale" could mean they had direct access to a server or to storage, maybe because they had an insider giving them access, or they found secrets that had leaked somewhere?

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Netflix didn't lose content by choice. Actual right holders decided to pull their content and create rival services. Has nothing to do with perceived enshittification by Netflix (even though they have enshittification too). Spotify is under the same threat: they have no content that they own. Everything is licensed.

But, Netflix did lose their content by choice! Way back in the 00s, you could pay Netflix something like $5 a month, and they would mail you physical DVDs of almost any movies you could ever want to watch. In fact, my recollection is that the physical library was generally much more extensive than the streaming library, at least through the early ‘10s. Sure, they had the rug yanked out from under them with digital st…

> In fact, my recollection is that the physical library was generally much more extensive than the streaming library, at least through the early ‘10s.

Because streaming licences are different from DVD licences for example. Hell, even 4k streaming licenses and lossless audio streaming licenses are different (and significantly more costly) than streaming 1080p and compressed audio.

> put themselves into that position when they pivoted to streaming in the first place.

As we all know physical DVD businesses are thriving

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Spotify pays 70% of revenue to rights holders . Why don't you ask them where the money inteded for artists is going? You know? The small insignificant companies of Sony, Warner Music, EMI that own the vast majority of music and own all the contracts?

That is the decision of artists to sign with a mega corp. Any tom dick or harry can create a Spotify account, load their warbling autotuned ditty written by themselves ( or AI ) on any theme, in any genre and wait for fame or fortune to appear or not. You can take your 70% or whatever the exact number is with no.middle man if you like. Unfortunately the number of people producing music and the quantity of it is much…

> Any tom dick or harry can create a Spotify account, load their warbling autotuned ditty written by themselves ( or AI ) on any theme, in any genre and wait for fame or fortune to appear or not

No, you literally can't.

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Netflix didn't lose content by choice. Actual right holders decided to pull their content and create rival services. Has nothing to do with perceived enshittification by Netflix (even though they have enshittification too). Spotify is under the same threat: they have no content that they own. Everything is licensed.

I thought they started producing their own podcasts. Can't bring in much though.

260+ million songs they don't own vs a dozen or so podcasts

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This is conspiracy theory territory but I wonder if big tech is sponsoring efforts like this as an easy way to get training data.

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I thought they started producing their own podcasts. Can't bring in much though.

260+ million songs they don't own vs a dozen or so podcasts

Yes, but it's still the required correction to your claim. I actually don't know how many podcasts are using their publishing platform. I imagine it's considerably more than a dozen.

They want to own something but it's always going to be a drop in the ocean. They have a small new music label thing called RADAR but I imagine the failure rate on that is very high. They need to buy a label if they want to meaningfully change this. Just like Amazon now owns MGM and Netflix maybe getting Warner Bros. Presumably they can't afford to do this, and I don't think that integration would work as well in the music industry.

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Probably not down, but blocked by your ISP. Try a VPN. Same thing happens here.

Yes, blocked. This is what I see in germany without a VPN https://notice.cuii.info/ "Their buisness model is based on copyright infringement" Well, where to complain that Anna's Archive ain't a buisness?

Aamzingly, I don't even get this page. I just see the default "this page is not available" from my browser. I'm with Vodafone, and I wonder if it is legal to pretend a site doesn't exist without notifying me.

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I recently got into the whole homelab *arr stack for things like movies and tv and while I know options exist for music I just don’t see the need yet price-wise. Spotify is still just cheap enough for me to not care enough. We’ll see how long this holds. That being said it’s no secret Spotify and other streaming services barely pay even popular artists. Artists make money from live shows and merch. The fact that thei…

for me its the arms trade. Daniel Ek pours spotify wealth into next gen miltech. sometimes I worry that I don't know what music means to other people but I am certain that to me it is antithetical to war culture.

I feel like Ek receives a disproportional amount of hate for this. You have all these American CEO's pouring their investments in the American war machine (Palantir, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, etc) and no one bats an eye.

Is it because this time it's going to a European company?

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