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It’s a much better link this time though.
Same referenced link as earlier. Same discussion.
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Re: France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
care to expand/provide some more info?
Durov had long claimed he was in exile from Russia and couldn’t return and that he was a UAE/French citizen. then records leaked that showed 120 border crossings from 2016-2021 and that he still held a Russian passport. One such border crossing was a flight from St Petersburg on June 18, 2020 which happens to be the same day that Telegram was unblocked in Russia… Lots and lots of smoke.. The Kyiv Independent article…
I dare to point out that this article provides no real evidence for these audacious accusations.
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#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fuck yeah preach. If someone claims to be "representing" me (whatever the fuck that means)... ...even more so if they are "representing" me alongside millions of others, i.e. in a very abstract sense (what do a million people have in common? everything and nothing)... ...and especially if the "representation" is concluded in "winning" a ritual bureaucratic gauntlet which gives you the right to send organized murderer…
I like the application of Dunbar's number, though I am torn on (2). The largest countries currently have over 1 billion citizens, that's still 10 million representatives. That's as much as some countries. One solution is to say that no country should be so large anyway. And I'd like that, creating such huge power structures (hierarchical or not) is dangerous. But realistically, sometimes they are needed for defense.…
Yes.
I imagine on the level of any individual's participation in society, culture, economy, whatever you want to call it - it's always started out more or less like "here, you have these 100-150 places in your memory which nature gave you to know other apes; turns out you can also use them to store abstract concepts, which take 7-8x less neural bandwidth before compression; here are some: ..."
And it's due to some general agglomerating drive of systems - perhaps the same principle that made multicellular life preferable - that it ended up working out like "half of who you consider yourself to be is determined by the metanarrative undertow of the first language you were taught, and the rest by the last movie you watched."
Ain't that a life.
Re: France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors
#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
Durov had long claimed he was in exile from Russia and couldn’t return and that he was a UAE/French citizen. then records leaked that showed 120 border crossings from 2016-2021 and that he still held a Russian passport. One such border crossing was a flight from St Petersburg on June 18, 2020 which happens to be the same day that Telegram was unblocked in Russia… Lots and lots of smoke.. The Kyiv Independent article…
I dare to point out that this article provides no real evidence for these audacious accusations.
See my other comment but Durov later admitted to basically all of that (he does travel freely in Russia, he did keep his Russian passport, the border crossing list was accurate). The signal - telegram debate has always come down to some variation of “If you trust Telegram to not allow MitM access to their servers and if the non-standard encryption they choose is secure and if you enabled the secure chat feature, it’s probably fine. Signal uses standard encryption and the messages are always encrypted so there’s no need to trust anyone.”
Which is likely why Signal is banned in Russia and Telegram is freely available.
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Where do you get that ‘fact’? Can you elaborate? According to all the Annual Threat Assessment reports from the office of the Director of National Intelligence[1], the top four threats are 1. China 2. Russia 3. Iran 4. North Korea [1]: https://www.intelligence.gov/annual-threat-assessment
Of course they would say that
You know, not providing any evidence for your claim (the “fact”) does not prove your point..
Re: France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors
#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
Once they've established a rule that you have to help them in all cases, what stops them from forcing you to push an update to a phone while the user still has it , to collect information from the phone while actually unlocked and in use?
French laws... A warrant is needed !
... and it's not possible to get such a warrant? Why not?
Re: France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
Libertarians reject governmental force but provide no barriers to corporate force. There are innumerable documented examples of corporate force having greater control over the population than a government. These examples are not just historical but also include the time we are currently living in.
I don't think this is true of libertarianism. Libertarians reject use of force, except to prevent other use of force. I.e. I can use force to stop someone else from using force on me (or others). Corporations are not exempt from this. A libertarian would support using force to stop a corporation from using force to coerce people to do something. But Libertarians reject a premise that a corporation is required to serv…
I still don't see how Libertarians can solve the current problems we have with corporate abuse of force. For example, if a company is a major employer in town and pollutes both the ground and the water, how is an individual going to push back against the company's power? How is an individual going to apply force to a corporation to get them to stop and/or clean up the pollution?
How can an individual or even a group of individuals stop a corporation from underpaying its workers so that they need to use some public assistance, food, or medical care?
There are many similar examples, but they all boil down to the asymmetry of power. An organization capable of employing many lawyers, or even a single good one, can grind you down until you have nothing left. I still see libertarians as having no answer.
I think the only way to fight back against corporate abuse is to build a stronger center of power. Something like a union, a citizenry willing to take collective action, or even a Government that is not beholden to corporate interests.
Re: France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors
#388Remember when they arrested Pavel Durov? I don't buy their official reasoning. Dear European friends, our leaders are tightening the screws. If we don't make our voices heard this is only going to get worse. https://x.com/durov/status/1976420399970701543
> We’ve been made to believe that the greatest fight of our generation is to destroy everything our forefathers left us: tradition, privacy, sovereignty, the free market, and free speech.
Read: "Hi, I'm a right-wing populist."
Tradition is virtue signalling to them. Sovereignty is to fuel this anti-EU trend (a Russian propaganda point).
Durov is a Russian asset, I'm sure of it. Why, cause he got ties with the underworld, that is why. He didn't want to act on warez, narcotics, criminals, scams, etc. None of that he took serious, because in the viewpoint of a Russian criminal (the Russian state is the head of the criminal enterprise) all of that is just business. Which is also why he gets along so well with Trump. But when he didn't want to act on child pornography, he went too far. Because approximately all adults oppose that sexual preference. That is when France got his ass handed on a silver plate.
If this guy would care about free speech he'd be a lot more vocal about Trump and Putin instead of France and EU. The EU is under attack by Russian trolls, ask anyone who works in SOC. It has become worse...
Re: France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors
#389HN title: "France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors" LQDN: "Dans ces articles, la cheffe de la section cybercriminalité du parquet de Paris – à l'origine de l'arrestation de Pavel Durov – menace également les développeurs·es de GrapheneOs. Interviewée, elle prévient qu'elle ne s'« empêchera pas de poursuivre les éditeurs, si des liens sont découverts avec une organisation crimi…
France basically always had very good PR portraying the country as "romantic" and a champion of freedom but reality has almost always been very different. It was very unfree in the 16th century, what led to the French revolution, which was a nightmare, then military dictatorship. The 20th century was not much better and never forget France collaborated very quickly with the third Reich. Then De Gaulle has some sort o…
When it comes to freedom, France definitely has it backwards.
Now that it is in deep trouble economically, the bureaucracy is claiming for even more soft communism in a very totalitarian way. One needs to understand that the system made some people quite rich, way more than they would have been able on merit alone, thanks to the politics of bureaucracy.
Funnily enough the "far-right" is brandished as a fascist boogeyman when it would be a challenge to actually become more totalitarian.
For those reasons the "state of rights" is losing its legitimacy and criminality is on the rise unsurprisingly. When what you can expect to get out of the system becomes too disconnect from merit, it doesn't make sense to participate as a good actor.
So we now get rising commissars that tries to police speech and behavior any way they can. The police is basically a state militia that spends more time annoying mostly law-abiding citizens for minor offenses that just tow the line, in order to extract as much money out of them as possible. Meanwhile real criminals are out of control and receive laughable sentences from the corrupted justice system when they get caught. Following far-left ideals, criminals are victims that can be given more chances. One elected parliament member got caught buying drugs and basically nothing happened to him. Hard to not see some collusion.
Re: France threatens GrapheneOS with arrests / server seizure for refusing backdoors
#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think this is true of libertarianism. Libertarians reject use of force, except to prevent other use of force. I.e. I can use force to stop someone else from using force on me (or others). Corporations are not exempt from this. A libertarian would support using force to stop a corporation from using force to coerce people to do something. But Libertarians reject a premise that a corporation is required to serv…
I still don't see how Libertarians can solve the current problems we have with corporate abuse of force. For example, if a company is a major employer in town and pollutes both the ground and the water, how is an individual going to push back against the company's power? How is an individual going to apply force to a corporation to get them to stop and/or clean up the pollution? How can an individual or even a group…
In your example most (not all) libertarians would agree that you need some regulation of those corporations to prevent or minimize external costs, or in some other way factor them in. But the regulations should be as local as possible, and directed only toward the stated objective, with a little other government control as possible. E.g. you can tax my carbon emissions, but you can't regulate my vehicle or fuel consumption.
For example, regarding pollution, prohibiting any discharge of the offending pollutants, or measuring and taxing them in some way - but with no requirements about HOW a corporation should meet these regulations or otherwise run their business.
Unions are fine, and people should obviously be free to join them if they want. But there should not be any laws that require or favor unions, and government employees should not be allowed to unionize.
A government beholden to corporate interests doesn't matter much if the government doesn't have much power. But with power comes interests and influence, always.