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How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by aerostable_slug »

ruszki wrote: post #368
tracker1 wrote: post #360

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I think you may underestimate the ability of China to abuse industrial espionage at scale.

There are things which needs time, even with all or almost all the information at hand, just like with atomic bomb. I’m not sure whether this case similar to that, but that ASML in front for so much time indicates that their moot is probably not just information.

See also: military jet engines. They can't replicate high end engines from Pratt & Whitney or GE even though I'm guessing Chinese intelligence services have a huge amount of relevant information. I don't know why that is.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by mfuzzey »

Exoristos wrote: post #362
petcat wrote: post #24

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EU is in a very tough spot right now. They're getting squeezed on all sides economically by USA and China while simultaneously facing a Russian invasion on their eastern borders. The relationship with the American administration has deteriorated badly and any action seen as "retaliation", such as this policy blockade, would almost definitely result in USA withdrawing even more support for Ukraine in the war. I think,…

This is quite a romantic way to describe EU shooting itself in the foot with corrupt politicians and myopic policies.

It's more the US that has corrupt politicians and myopic policies. Trump changes his mind every few days He takes bribes from the Swiss.

The sooner the EU rids itself of the US the better

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by 7952 »

breppp wrote: post #222
7952 wrote: post #78

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Ethno-nationalism seems to be a strong factor in both Israeli and Palestinian politics. I can't think of a more direct example of ethno-nationalism than the Jewish state. Also, my point was more about how conflict is perceived and litigated in politics and threads like this. Factoids about history are completely irrelevant to that. Its just another abstraction.

> can't think of a more direct example of ethno-nationalism than the Jewish state. It's a weird concept, which kind of nationalism isn't ethno-nationalist? I can think of maybe two nations whose brand of nationalism does not relate to an ethnic group and I will probably push it for the USA. Israel is probably the only ethnoreligious nation, and the ethnic part is debatable if you ever seen Israelis, unlike the Palest…

Perhaps I should have said "exclusive nation state membership abstractions". It makes no difference to the point. That the abstraction subjugates the individual.

And I don't see why American can't be an ethnicity or even religious type all on its own. None of this is static.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by mlindner »

> Judge: EU should block sanctions

If you do that then the US would respond by doing things like attempting to block EU laws that affect US companies. They're American companies. You can't just block them. American companies won't refuse to follow American law. If you put them in a position where they are forced to either follow American law and European law that are in conflict then they'll be forced to withdraw from the European market.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by lukan »

earthnail wrote: post #375
lukan wrote: post #356

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"I know it sounds gloomy, but only if you have your head too close to the screens daily. Worse had come and gone than incompetent russians." Depends where you live I suppose. The baltic states are rightfully worried and take it a bit more serious. And yes, russia on its own is not that dangerous to whole Europe. But russia in combination with north korean soldiers and supported by china .. and some european states th…

I don’t fully understand that bit about the EU turning evil. Care to elaborate?

Italy has already a Mussolini (who invented fascism) admiring government. Biggest opposition in france is pretty right wing. The german right wing opposition is pretty strong, ... etc.

Was your point that europe is immune to fascism and imperialism somehow?

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

JeremyNT wrote: post #91
enlguy wrote: post #3

Only the U.S. would actually sanction someone for trying to indict a war criminal.

> Only the U.S. would actually sanction someone for trying to indict a war criminal. The problem is that only the US has the power to material harm people to such a degree by doing so. The amount of control that Big Tech has consolidated into a handful of US megacorporations is a massive danger to the entire world. The US devolving into an overt kleptocracy is a huge threat to freedom everywhere. Who can push back? O…

Trumpian fascists being given power in USA demands that anyone who supports democracy ceases trade with USA. It is no safer than feeding the Russian machine.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by ayewo »

KK7NIL wrote: post #246
general1465 wrote: post #238

The more USA is going to use this leaver, the likely they will make this leaver useless in the future. Like with China, when they overused chips leaver which stunted China for a while, but eventually gave them a way to establish their own chip industry. Now that leaver is becoming effectively useless. It will ends up same with EU.

The best China has is an internationally uncompetitive "7nm" fab and that's the best they'll have until they can manufacture EUV machines domestically. So the EUV blockade has absolutely been effective and the fact that the PRC is paying so many shills to convince westerners otherwise just shows how behind they are.

You are ignoring the possibility of technological disruption.

Apple disrupted Nokia and Blackberry. ARM is currently disrupting Intel.

What if someone lands on a break-through using a completely different tech: what if X-ray lithography [1] becomes viable enough that they don’t have to acquire state-of-art EUV machines from ASML?

[1] X-ray lithography was abandoned in the 80s but it is being revisited by Substrate https://substrate.com/our-purpose. They are an American company that hopes to make it commercially viable by being cheaper and far less complex than EUV.

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Post by quotz »

saalweachter wrote: post #340
_djo_ wrote: post #257

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There was no such promise. Everyone who was actually in the room during those talks, including Premier Gorbachev, has denied it. Nor was Ukraine anywhere close to joining NATO. It’s application had effectively been frozen in 2008, and it was not even being offered a MAP which is about step 1 on a 20 step ladder of actions to take before joining. It’s a red herring being used to justify Russia’s territorial and imperi…

Even if Ukraine were about to join NATO, why would joining a mutual defense pact be threatening, unless, you know, you were planning to invade them?

What would happen if Canada joined a mutual defense pact with Russia? Or Mexico? Think about this scenario, would the US invade immediately?. Something similar actually happened with Cuba in the 60s, and the US invaded them, doing a total naval siege [1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by quotz »

_djo_ wrote: post #354
saalweachter wrote: post #340

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Even if Ukraine were about to join NATO, why would joining a mutual defense pact be threatening, unless, you know, you were planning to invade them?

Excellent point. Ukraine, like any sovereign country, can join whatever alliances it wants too. There is no right in international law that allows its neighbours to invade if it picks one they don’t like. Add to that that it’s a mutual defence pact and the argument becomes more absurd.

What would happen if Canada joined a mutual defense pact with Russia? Or Mexico? Think about this scenario, would the US invade immediately?. Something similar actually happened with Cuba in the 60s, and the US invaded them, doing a total naval siege [1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

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Post by 7952 »

breppp wrote: post #295
dragonwriter wrote: post #242

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> It's a weird concept, which kind of nationalism isn't ethno-nationalist? Most nationalism either is based around an established ancestry-derived ethnic identity (which is what “ethno-nationalism” usually refers to), or seeks to construct a new identity (which itself can be viewed as ethnic) transcending existing ethnic lines within the population of a state (the PRM regime in Mexico is an example of this); you migh…

Yes, it is usually used as a talking point against Israel which seems to indicate Israel is guilty of being the only ethnonationalist nation on earth. I usually take it as another example of scapegoating Israel for universal concepts like war, which is a cultural tradition dating at least two millennia (scapegoating, not war)

Im not attacking Israeli ethno-nationalism. I am attacking how you see the world so exclusively through that lense. The assumption that the only cause I could care about could be some kind of anti semitic activism. When actually I think this is a problem all over the place and for the most part Israeli's are just another victim of that.
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