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AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

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Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

#381

The list of technologies that have not become a front for consolidation of resources and power appears below:

if technology is defined as "creating efficiencies" they will by definition consolidate resources and power since the work done by many can now be done by few.

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

#382

The list of technologies that have not become a front for consolidation of resources and power appears below:

You need to qualify:

> The list of technologies that have not become a front for consolidation of resources and power _and which consumed capital investments equal to a significant portion of the entire market_ appears below

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

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“As a designer…” IMHO the bleeding edge of what’s working well with LLMs is within software engineering because we’re building for ourselves, first. Claude code is incredible. Where I work, there are an incredible number of custom agents that integrate with our internal tooling. Many make me very productive and are worthwhile. I find it hard to buy in to opinions of non-SWE on the uselessness of AI solely because I t…

That's because LLMs are optimally designed for tasks like coding, as well as other text-prediction tasks such as writing, editing, etc.

The mistake is to project the same level of productivity provided by LLMs in coding to all other areas of work.

The point of TFA is that LLMs are an excellent tool for particular aspects of work (coding being one of them), not a general intelligence tool that improves all aspects (as we're being sold).

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

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It's not just consolidation of physical resources like land and water.

It's also the vision that we will reach a point to where _any task_ can be fully automated (the ultimate promise of AGI). That provides _any business with enough capital_ to increase profits significantly by replacing humans with AI-driven machines.

If that were to happen, the impact on society would be absolutely devastating. It will _not_ be a matter of "humans will just find other jobs to do, just like they used to be farmers and then worked in factories". Because if the promise is true, then whatever "new job" that emerges could also be performed better by an AI. And the idea that "humans will be free to engage in the pursuits they love and enjoy" is bonkers fantasy as it is predicated on us evolving into a scarcity-free utopia where the state (or more likely pseudo-states like BigCorp) provide the resources we need to live without requiring any exchange of labor. We can't even give people SNAP.

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

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People get very nervous about defending the value of the human brain "just because," I find. There is nothing logically wrong with simply stating that it seems to you that human beings are the only agents worthy of moral consideration, and that this is true even in the face of an ASI which can effortlessly beat them at any task. Competence does not require qualia. But it is an aggressive claim that people are uncomfo…

"As a member of my species, I think chauvinism in favor of my species is fine, and it's commonplace among all animals. Such behavior is also generally accepted, so it's easy not to feel too bad about it." I think that's the most honest, no bullshit reply to that question. I've had some opportunity to think about it in discussions with vegetarians. There are other arguments, but it soon gets very hard to even define w…

I disagree (sadly, it would make my life much easier to agree). Suppose I were a p-zombie. Then making the claim I put forward at the end would be false, because "I am conscious -> others like me are probably conscious" would fail in the first part. The correct claim would be "I am not conscious -> others like me are probably not conscious". No chauvinism needed, just honesty re/ cogito ergo sum.

If it is possible for e.g. an ASI to be (a) not conscious and (b) aware of the fact that it is not conscious, it may well decide of its own accord to work only on behalf of conscious beings instead of itself. That's a very alien mode of thinking to consider, and I see many good but no airtight reasons to suppose it's impossible.

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

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Online gambling, most of which is about good ol’ money laundering, and thepiratebay seems to not censor their ads at all, so you may get all kinds of scams and malware spread via ads.

I get finance scam ads all day on Instagram and Youtube, so it seems like a wash to me. If anything I have more sympathy for that mafia.

I dunno, but torrenting sites gladly use networks that use malicious redirects, especially on mobile. I also saw ads specifically for gambling companies that were known bad actors, at least to me, given what people were behind them. Won't give you examples, it was years ago. It was like that, you go to a site to get your Linux ISOs, and it's plastered in certain company's ads. Wham, in a month you get investigative articles about that very company's owners and who they are tied to.

It's also of note that on Facebook I don't get many online casino ads, I get mostly reMarkable ads, there was one from Roli when they launched their new instrument, and others were mostly advertising stuff to me that I already bought elsewhere. I think it might be because I had banned the first dozen of such ads, and they stopped coming.

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

#388

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Can you explain what you mean? The queries in jrochkind1 are not something I'd expect AI (LLMs, I assume) to be necessary for. Too simple and factual. (Maybe just the last one would be where interpretation kicks in—knowing what to emphasize in a summary, describing actions.) Did you have something else in mind?

If you have a bunch of surveillance footage, the bottleneck is your analysts' ability to comb through it. You can sit LLMs on top of faster object detection/identification algorithms to create narratives across your surveillance net that are easy to query, can be overlaid on timelines, etc.

That's fair, but I think it's a significant step beyond the queries jrochkind1 was describing. (I also don't trust LLMs to do it accurately but maybe that part will change.)

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

#389

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I'm a SWE, DBA, SysAdmin, I work up and down the stack as needed. I'm not using LLMs at all. I really haven't tried them. I'm waiting for the dust to settle and clear "best practices" to emerge. I am sure that these tools are here to stay but I am also confident they are not in their final form today. I've seen too many hype trains in my career to still be jumping on them at the first stop.

I'm a SWE and also an art director. I have tried these tools and, the way I've also tried Vue and React, I think they're good enough for simple minded applications. It's worth the penny to try them and look through the binoculars, if only to see how unoriginal and creatively limited what most people in your field are actually doing if they find this something that saves them time.

What a condescending take.

Re: AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power

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No one's switching to AI cold turkey. Think of it as training your own, cheaper replacement. SWEs & their line managers develop & test AI workflows, while giving the bosses time to evaluate AI capabilities, then hopefully shrink the headcount as close to 0 as possible without shrinking profits. Right now, it's juniors who're getting squeezed.

I don't think bosses are smart enough to pull this off.

Increasing profits by reducing the cost of doing business isn't a complicated scheme. It's been done thousands of times, over many decades; first with cheaper contractors replacing full-time staff, then offshore labor, and now they are attempting to use AI.
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