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NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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And he is super well known for making accurate predictions of the future.

Elon's predictions are usually very late, but they do happen. Falcon 9 landings, self driving vehicles, etc... Later than predicted, but they happened.

We're still waiting on the self driving vehicles. His promise was coast to coast on its own: https://electrek.co/2025/09/21/tesla-influencers-tried-elon-...

by 2017!

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Jack Parsons was literally a genius though. Wernher von Braun's dad being Catholic is also not silly.

I think you left out the part about the Knights of Malta being a powerful group of individuals throughout history, with many prominent members in high places who are sworn to secrecy regarding their occult society and its dealings.

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The silver lining is that they are operating under the assumption that he will leave office at the conclusion of his term.

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For those that don't want to believe this, here's a primary source:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GyrWkIEW8AQJOHN?format=jpg

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JFK proposed we go to the Moon in 1962. We did it in 1969, 7 years later.

They also killed three astronauts in the process and had to stop the program and reevaluate their whole approach to safety. The risk of people dying is sometimes an acceptable risk. We accept it every time a firefighter goes into a burning building. Is a national vanity project like Moon missions worth the risk? Maybe then, when it was novel and inspirational, but now, when it's a retro throwback and the only reason…

They knew the risks and chose to do it in the face of that. People take insane risks for the fun of it. Seen any of the RedBull stunts on YouTube lately? Humans with jet packs flying alongside jetliners!

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JFK proposed we go to the Moon in 1962. We did it in 1969, 7 years later.

They also killed three astronauts in the process and had to stop the program and reevaluate their whole approach to safety. The risk of people dying is sometimes an acceptable risk. We accept it every time a firefighter goes into a burning building. Is a national vanity project like Moon missions worth the risk? Maybe then, when it was novel and inspirational, but now, when it's a retro throwback and the only reason…

>and the only reason we're doing it is to avoid losing face to the communist

Totally unlike the first time.

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That was (for the western hemisphere) mostly to steal gold and silver from other civilizations. Oh, and to grow addictive drugs for export, like in Virginia. It was never done for other than banal reasons, although I'm sure pious rationalizations were offered to make people feel better about the ongoing genocides.

Wasn't it to discover alternative trade routes and also to show physically that the world is round? I think they didn't know that there were usable land to grow tobacco when they started.

Humans have demonstrably known the world is round since at least ancient Greece.

Columbus claimed it was radically smaller in diameter than previous calculations, and was begging for funding to go around the other side of the world to get a good trade route to India and China for trade goods. He was following some bad math, and adding his own worse math to the mix.

People were sure he was going to die, because they did not bring enough provisions to actually go around the world.

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They also killed three astronauts in the process and had to stop the program and reevaluate their whole approach to safety. The risk of people dying is sometimes an acceptable risk. We accept it every time a firefighter goes into a burning building. Is a national vanity project like Moon missions worth the risk? Maybe then, when it was novel and inspirational, but now, when it's a retro throwback and the only reason…

>and the only reason we're doing it is to avoid losing face to the communist Totally unlike the first time.

Unlike the first time, it isn't new and isn't a technological flex. The payoff from the first time was marginal, measured mainly in the children it inspired to pursue STEM. This time, does anybody even care?

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There is just so much wrong with this from start to finish. Here are a few things, by no means inclusive: 1. We’ve already beaten China to the moon by 56 years, 3 months, and some change. And counting. 2. Nothing based around SLS is remotely serious. The cost and timeline of doing anything with it are unreasonable. It is an absolute dead-end. The SpaceX Super Heavy has been more capable arguably as early as the secon…

SLS is such a maintenance mode project that I have a failure of imagination in seeing how it helps aerospace companies with their ulterior motive of remaining in standby for a war posture. A lot of that so-called pork is really about keeping the home fires burning.

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Which will backfire spectacularly when Obama is re-elected.

I get the impulse and it would be amusing, but I have a feeling people are sick of "dynasty" Dem candidates for president (Hillary after her husband, Biden/Harris after each being VPs.) Feels like his legacy and appeal has kind of faded too. He was an exciting first-time candidate and good-enough incumbent, but third term?

Hillary sure, but they explicitly said Obama, not Clinton.

Nominating a VP as President isn’t dynastic, it’s been common practice for centuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vice_presidents_of_the...

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That was (for the western hemisphere) mostly to steal gold and silver from other civilizations. Oh, and to grow addictive drugs for export, like in Virginia. It was never done for other than banal reasons, although I'm sure pious rationalizations were offered to make people feel better about the ongoing genocides.

Wasn't it to discover alternative trade routes and also to show physically that the world is round? I think they didn't know that there were usable land to grow tobacco when they started.

The first of those is banal, and the second is wrong -- they already knew the world was round, and had a more accurate estimate of the diameter than Columbus was claiming.
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