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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by HeavyStorm »

abustamam wrote: post #341
potatolicious wrote: post #276

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It's pretty much my #1 example of Google's propensity for shipping its org chart. Workspace accounts come with their own compliance requirements and edge cases that products need to handle, but rather than do that and provide a consistent user experience most product teams don't answer to the relevant PAs and so don't care, and Workspace accounts are a small enough minority of users that nobody has to care. I've ofte…

What alternative to metrics-driven product development would you suggest?

Humane development Metrics are great, but they aren't humane - there's no single human behind the metrics.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by rendx »

mijoharas wrote: post #343
rendx wrote: post #162

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I use imapsync. Yes you can limit it to mails sent or received in a certain timespan. https://imapsync.lamiral.info/FAQ.d/FAQ.Archiving.txt

Hey, first off, thanks. How do you go about that? The documentation says: Q. Can imapsync be used to maintain and restore a local offline copy of a mailbox, eg for backup purposes, using Mbox or Maildir format, so that if the server fails, then the mailbox could be reinstated? R1. No. Imapsync plays with IMAP servers only.

Ah yes, I run a local IMAP server (Dovecot).

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by citizenpaul »

kilroy123 wrote: post #330
citizenpaul wrote: post #313

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Google is absolutely notorious for freezing accounts with zero warning, zero explanation and zero recourse. I personally experienced this while working for a charity that used Google workspace. After 8 years they suddenly froze the account. The freeze lasted 32 days. During this period they could not operate and Google was completely unresponsive for the first 2 weeks. Google then started demanding various forms of p…

I set a reminder on my calendar to do a take out every 3 months and keep my data backed up and refreshed.

If you have a business on there sure take out will save the data. How are you going to restructure your entire business on a new platform that you now have to evaluate and purchase under duress. Not even including retraining everyone.

There have been studies about what happens to business when this happens. They go out of business nearly without exception.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by burnte »

fairramone wrote: post #380
burnte wrote: post #290

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I had to admin Google Workspace maybe 9-10 years ago. It was rough but I thought they'd beep refining it. I'm back in a company using GW and I swear to god it's gotten worse. The basic features that simple don't exist are boggling. It is not a serious product and I feel bad for companies that have to use it. I've been here three months and I'm already planning our migration away.

What are you planning to migrate to?

O365. For what this company does it's great. Intune/autopilot alone is a huge labor saver.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by chrisfinazzo »

tracker1 wrote: post #369
chrisfinazzo wrote: post #296

Why are people surprised by this? (No, really) IMAP "defeated" POP long ago if you wanted to use a third-party client but still access mail from anywhere. By definition, this doesn't work in a POP environment, but that's increasingly an outdated mindset. For historical reasons (intertia, and being early enough that I was able to acquire a "firstname.lastname" address), I don't plan to leave Gmail unless things really…

This is about importing email from your non-gmail account INTO your gmail account. POP is simply the easiest way to do this, and just from GMail's own IMAP interface, it's pretty clear that IMAP is NOT reliable for this task... The details in TFA are that you can add an external IMAP account to the gmail client app in Android. This does nothing for the gmail web ui, meaning you need something else for your external e…

I see the appeal of using Gmail to manage all of your mail, including the fact that you can still send through external SMTP servers, but it's just not for me.

Native clients continue to improve, and the mismatch between how I handle Gmail on iOS vs (for example) Fastmail shows that they're so wedded to this particular mindset that it's unlikely to ever be fully solved.

I look at people like my Dad -- early 70's, who spent most of his career as the "desktop infrastructure" manager at a midsize insurer -- who still wants to have Outlook available because he likes how Outlook does mail. It's just how his mind works. IMAP exists, but it's an implementation detail that's separate from the specific client features they add.

    Wouldn't mind exploring something akin to a web-based, self-hosted Thunderbird mail client giving a server hosted web UI for multiple email and nntp services.
Self hosting your own mailserver is almost always a bad idea unless you're really a dyed-in-the-wool mail nerd - I worked for one at a small startup one summer during college, but they're a rare breed.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by suka47856 »

OhMeadhbh wrote: post #137

Yeah. Gmail is an anti-pattern. I was paying $10/month for workplace and a couple days ago they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP. Fortunately, I own the domain so I pointed it at amazon. I pretty much only use google apps to share docs I've written elsewhere, so I didn't really lose too much when I lost access to apps. It would be much cooler if there were a human I could talk to to find out what…

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